Fog on Map

KaiserJohannes · 06-24-2012, 05:35 AM

Hello,
I am making a map right now and I have encountered the following problem:
Since part of the map is an open airfield I need fog to provide cover. You might know the map dod_flurry (really awesome snow map).
On this Map the fog completely surrounds the player no matter where he looks. but on my map (I added env_fog_controller und put all the values in sky_camera) the Fog is just "on" all my objects and brushes but not in the air so that you can see the sky which i dont wont. See here:

dod_flurry:

dod_eschborn: (my map)

(there is no skybox texture to make 100% clear what I mean, it makes no difference with or without a sky texture)

_Meathead_ · 06-24-2012, 06:37 AM

Fog has no effect on the skybox. I think Flurry uses the technique of lining the 3D skybox with the toolsblack texture explained here.
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Fog_tutorial

KaiserJohannes · 06-24-2012, 08:04 AM

OK cool thanks... but after doing the func_brush way its still just pitch black ?! Why is that? I am compiling my Vis in fast bt that should be the problem?

//Edit: When I pull up dod_flurry and fly around in spec then I can not see any black void but only fog?! An my map its black and the skybox then is foggy...
//Edit: I have checked and i belive there is no leak or any map breaking errors.

nohitreg001 · 06-24-2012, 09:58 PM

looks like you got a leak.

KaiserJohannes · 06-25-2012, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nohitreg001

looks like you got a leak.

According to the interlopers.net errors page I dont have one. I checkt for leaks right away since that is the first that comes to mind .

KaiserJohannes · 06-28-2012, 09:52 AM

I need to bump this up because I still haven't found my mistake it isn't working. I tryed it on new Maps etc not working ist pitch black sky...
I think I am going insane if I cant find out why. I realy need this in my map otherwise it wont work and all the work was for nothing...

Splatt · 06-28-2012, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nohitreg001

looks like you got a leak.

This is actually Sli-Woody's alta-ego. If he is suggesting you have a 'leak', I would would check this out. He knows his stuff does old Woody

PS check your pms.

KaiserJohannes · 06-29-2012, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splatt

This is actually Sli-Woody's alta-ego. If he is suggesting you have a 'leak', I would would check this out. He knows his stuff does old Woody

PS check your pms.

Well yes I checked for leaks and interlopers is also telling me I dont have any :/

Checked PM gonna PM you soon

Splatt · 07-01-2012, 04:15 AM

@KaiserJohannes: new pm sent.

JimmyCrackCorn · 07-02-2012, 10:06 AM

Here's a quick way to see if you have a leak on your map.

Create a no draw block around your entire map, make it hollow (make sure you make the block large enough that when you make it hollow it doesn't touch any part of your map), compile the map.

This won't help you in any way find the leak but it will seal any leak you have.

Dradz · 07-02-2012, 07:17 PM

I think the effect you are seeing is normal, based on the color of fog you have and your fog end values....you could try altering your primary fog color to a darker color, so the buildings do not look white and/or increase your fog end value. Another thing to look at may be your far z clip setting, but this does not look like a far z effect. Lastly, if you do have a 3d skybox, you need to ensure your for settings are the same in the sky camera as your normal world fog settings. Good luck!

06-24-2012, 05:35 AM	#1
KaiserJohannes Join Date: Jun 2012 Reputation: 0 Posts: 6	Fog on Map Hello, I am making a map right now and I have encountered the following problem: Since part of the map is an open airfield I need fog to provide cover. You might know the map dod_flurry (really awesome snow map). On this Map the fog completely surrounds the player no matter where he looks. but on my map (I added env_fog_controller und put all the values in sky_camera) the Fog is just "on" all my objects and brushes but not in the air so that you can see the sky which i dont wont. See here: dod_flurry: dod_eschborn: (my map) (there is no skybox texture to make 100% clear what I mean, it makes no difference with or without a sky texture) Last edited by KaiserJohannes: 06-24-2012 at 05:38 AM.

06-24-2012, 08:04 AM	#3
KaiserJohannes Join Date: Jun 2012 Reputation: 0 Posts: 6	OK cool thanks... but after doing the func_brush way its still just pitch black ?! Why is that? I am compiling my Vis in fast bt that should be the problem? //Edit: When I pull up dod_flurry and fly around in spec then I can not see any black void but only fog?! An my map its black and the skybox then is foggy... //Edit: I have checked and i belive there is no leak or any map breaking errors. Last edited by KaiserJohannes: 06-24-2012 at 09:20 AM.

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06-24-2012, 06:37 AM	#2
_Meathead_ Join Date: Apr 2010 Reputation: 2 Posts: 13	Fog has no effect on the skybox. I think Flurry uses the technique of lining the 3D skybox with the toolsblack texture explained here. https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Fog_tutorial

06-24-2012, 09:58 PM	#4
nohitreg001 Join Date: Feb 2009 Reputation: 11 Posts: 105	looks like you got a leak.

06-28-2012, 09:52 AM	#6
KaiserJohannes Join Date: Jun 2012 Reputation: 0 Posts: 6	I need to bump this up because I still haven't found my mistake it isn't working. I tryed it on new Maps etc not working ist pitch black sky... I think I am going insane if I cant find out why. I realy need this in my map otherwise it wont work and all the work was for nothing...

07-01-2012, 04:15 AM	#9
Splatt Join Date: Mar 2006 Reputation: 29 Posts: 733	@KaiserJohannes: new pm sent.

07-02-2012, 10:06 AM	#10
JimmyCrackCorn Join Date: Mar 2004 Reputation: 9 Posts: 207	Here's a quick way to see if you have a leak on your map. Create a no draw block around your entire map, make it hollow (make sure you make the block large enough that when you make it hollow it doesn't touch any part of your map), compile the map. This won't help you in any way find the leak but it will seal any leak you have.

07-02-2012, 07:17 PM	#11
Dradz Join Date: Feb 2008 Reputation: 92 Posts: 323	I think the effect you are seeing is normal, based on the color of fog you have and your fog end values....you could try altering your primary fog color to a darker color, so the buildings do not look white and/or increase your fog end value. Another thing to look at may be your far z clip setting, but this does not look like a far z effect. Lastly, if you do have a 3d skybox, you need to ensure your for settings are the same in the sky camera as your normal world fog settings. Good luck!