Make Bill's hat, the medal, the halo, and the gibus impossible to trade.

sagi445 · 11-04-2009, 01:07 AM

They could be made "Bind on pickup (like items in WoW)" so that they can never be traded. These are exclusive items given for ONLY special circumstances and are used to differentiate from hordes of ubiquitous common hats which anyone can "earn" just by leaving their comp on 24/7. Also this would stop the harassment of players who have Bill's hat/the halo (at this point it is nearly impossible to join a server without being asked at least 10 times to trade).

Also it should be impossible to delete hats and you should be given an unlimited amount of inventory space for them.

Reppuken · 11-04-2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sagi445

(like items in WoW)

Stopped reading here.

mensaap · 11-04-2009, 01:11 AM

You just want to brag that you have a halo and they don't is that it?

Atifex · 11-04-2009, 01:12 AM

Anyone could earn a Gibus... it was entirely too easy a hat to get...

sagi445 · 11-04-2009, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mensaap

You just want to brag that you have a halo and they don't is that it?

Other players could've gotten Halos as well, if they didn't cheat. It's a reward for players that rose above the immense pressure to cheat/were honest.

Fireborn · 11-04-2009, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mensaap

You just want to brag that you have a halo and they don't is that it?

We have a winner

Yugemos · 11-04-2009, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sagi445

Other players could've gotten Halos as well, if they didn't cheat. It's a reward for players that rose above the immense pressure to cheat/were honest.

Or the players who didn't know about it/didn't know how to use it/where to get it etc.

90068 · 11-04-2009, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sagi445

Other players could've gotten Halos as well, if they didn't cheat. It's a reward for players that rose above the immense pressure to cheat/were honest.

Most of them would argue they didn't.

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Originally Posted by sagi445

It's a reward for players that rose above the immense pressure to cheat/were honest.

I lol'd

Santtu · 11-04-2009, 01:20 AM

We have the trade system now? And I disagree. Someday someone will want to trade away his medal, and I will be there to oblige.

Imnotbanned · 11-04-2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sagi445

Other players could've gotten Halos as well, if they didn't cheat. It's a reward for players that rose above the immense pressure to cheat/were honest.

question...did you know why you got the halo? Do you know what Valve calls "cheating"? Or do you assume its aimbot/wallhacks or something?

Answered Yes,Yes,No?
Did you ever use achievement_idle?

No?
Did you purchase TF2 in early summer at the latest? (before sniper/spy update)

Yes?
Did you ever see the idler/knew where to get it?

Yes?
Fine, but it still wasn't cheating. It was waiting for a hat, the green way.

Last question...
Did you enjoy dressing up as a fairy princess while killing people?

JereTHEend · 11-04-2009, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Atifex

Anyone could earn a Gibus... it was entirely too easy a hat to get...

Can be different for those in US timezone, pings etc, in europe what i saw you could see maybe ONE perso with gibus on game, and dominating one person like that does not happen on snap of fingers, especially if he was good.

I did get it though, and "gave" it to bunch of friends (THAT way it was easy yes...)

sagi445 · 11-04-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Imnotbanned

question...did you know why you got the halo? Do you know what Valve calls "cheating"? Or do you assume its aimbot/wallhacks or something?

Answered Yes,Yes,No?
Did you ever use achievement_idle?

No?
Did you purchase TF2 in early summer at the latest? (before sniper/spy update)

Yes?
Did you ever see the idler/knew where to get it?

Yes?
Fine, but it still wasn't cheating. It was waiting for a hat, the green way.

First of all the program is hardy equivalent to achievement_idle, it is a third party program and "spoofs" players being in-game (this is clearly outlined in the steam subscribers agreement). Valve could've decided to VAC ban each and every idler (only 4.5% of tf2's players idled) without even an afterthought. However they were exceptionally generous and merely decided to take away your illegitimate hats. The problem is not the idling itself (Gabe Newell said the same thing on his twitter), but the way in which it was done.

K9GM3 · 11-04-2009, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Atifex

Anyone could earn a Gibus... it was entirely too easy a hat to get...

As I remember, it was pretty hard to find a player with a Gibus, let alone dominate him.

90068 · 11-04-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by K9GM3

As I remember, it was pretty hard to find a player with a Gibus, let alone dominate him.

In the first few hours of the update maybe. I played later that night and got it after 15 minutes of semi-normal play.

Imnotbanned · 11-04-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sagi445

First of all the program is hardy equivalent to achievement_idle, it is a third party program and "spoofs" players being in-game (this is clearly outlined in the steam subscribers agreement). Valve could've decided to VAC ban each and every idler (only 4.5% of tf2's players idled) without even an afterthought. However they were exceptionally generous and merely decided to take away your illegitimate hats. The problem is not the idling itself (Gabe Newell said the same thing on his twitter), but the way in which it was done.

4.5% hmm?

data averaged from times of the idler:
~30000 active players per day
~10000 max were in the idle program

1/3 = 4.5%?

Valve counted...
everyone who ever installed tf2, whether or not they played/bought it. (free weekend ft(halo))
people who joined within a week of their blog post on the idler (why can't i taunt with sapper? ft(halo))
people who stopped playing after the sniper/spy but b4 the idler (stupid drop system, i quit! ft(halo))
BIG ONE, people who were VAC Banned before the idler(wallhacks and aimbot ft(halo))

Why didn't Valve tell Drunken f00l anything when he specifically asked about his idle program and its legality?

11-04-2009, 01:07 AM	#1
sagi445 Join Date: Oct 2009 Reputation: 32 Posts: 196	Make Bill's hat, the medal, the halo, and the gibus impossible to trade. They could be made "Bind on pickup (like items in WoW)" so that they can never be traded. These are exclusive items given for ONLY special circumstances and are used to differentiate from hordes of ubiquitous common hats which anyone can "earn" just by leaving their comp on 24/7. Also this would stop the harassment of players who have Bill's hat/the halo (at this point it is nearly impossible to join a server without being asked at least 10 times to trade). Also it should be impossible to delete hats and you should be given an unlimited amount of inventory space for them.

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mensaap Join Date: Aug 2007 Reputation: 11 Posts: 426	You just want to brag that you have a halo and they don't is that it?

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