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Old 11-06-2009, 09:12 AM   #1
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Why does the Demoman get the flak?

It might JUST BE ME. But why does Demoman get all the 'op' flags when I feel Soldier is about 20% better in every way.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:12 AM   #2
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Soldier can shoot 4 explosives, then has to reload.

Demoman can shoot 12 explosives, then has to reload.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:13 AM   #3
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1: Lay Sticky Traps
2: Wait
3: ?????
4: DEMO IS SO OP
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:13 AM   #4
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It depends on what server you're on. If you're on a bad server, people will view the sticky bombs as horribly overpowered, with no way around. If you're on a halfway decent server, people usually put the Demoman in the same light of balance as the Soldier.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:13 AM   #5
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90% of this community walks in straight lines and thinks direct combat is always the most effective method.


So we have people complaining about bodyshot snipers and demos while playing w+m1 pyro.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:14 AM   #6
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I think a lot of it stems from people being mad that they frequently step on unnoticed Stickies and are immediately splattered.

Situational awareness will help you to survive.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:15 AM   #7
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Both his main weapons can instakill without criticals. Stickies require so little effort to do this it's criminal
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:18 AM   #8
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Both his main weapons can instakill without criticals. Stickies require so little effort to do this it's criminal
Hey look, someone that doesn't know what he's talking about.

Psst, Grenade Launcher can't 1-shot 125 HP classes (Can 1-shot Sandman Scout obviously_
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:18 AM   #9
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dont get me wrong i can see why people hate the demoman to no end 'up he put 3 sticky bombs up. If i go kill him im dead so i have to run away' but if you catch a demoman offguard chances are you can kill him. if a pyro gets up close the demoman can either die. or suicide himself with his own pipe bombs.

Soldiers you catch them off guard and they take damage, turn around, shoot two rockets point blank and walk off with 50 health.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:24 AM   #10
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1: Lay Sticky Traps
2: Wait
3: ?????
4: DEMO IS SO OP
Yea, right. Like Demos actually lay sticky traps...

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Old 11-06-2009, 09:30 AM   #11
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I was on dustbowl this morning, blu, stage 3. I usually set up a sticky trap on the right door because there's always a pyro trying to rush to spawn from there. I got a soldier instead. He started saying "OMG IS TAHT CAMPIN? THATS SO CHEAP".

tl;dr: People say demos are OP because, while you can see a rocket coming, you have to be barely sentient to understand where stickies may lie. That's not the regular pub population, hence, demo is OP.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:35 AM   #12
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Step 1. Aim towards the enemy's spawn

Step 2. Look up 70 Degrees

Step 3. Fire your pipe bawmz

Step 4. ????

Step 5. Profit!
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:38 AM   #13
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The demoman is the best class in the game and infinitely more useful than the soldier. It is hard to nerf the demo without making him useless. The only thing I can think of is to decrease his movement rate to that of the soldier or perhaps slightly decrease the sticky explosive area.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:39 AM   #14
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I go Demoman every time I want kill the entire opposing team with very little effort.

It's definitely the easiest class in the game and has the highest skill floor. He is the most effective class in the game with the least amount of experience.

Sniper being the most effective class in the game with the most amount of experience.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:51 AM   #15
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if Demoman is so easy... what is soldier like for you? it kills most classes in 2 hits. and all you have to do is shoot one to knock them in the air. the sticky bombs need to be spot on to knock some one like that
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