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Old 04-25-2010, 09:43 AM   #1
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Do You Need Catalyst Control Center To Update ATi Drivers?

Sorry, I don't know too much of this, and everybody seems to know this already because there aren't any links on Google (that I found) asking this question.

So I have an HD 4870 without Catalyst right now and the load times take forever so I want to try out the 10.4 preview drivers. I would much rather not have the Catalyst Control Center because I don't like having programs running in the background other than Anti-Virus.

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Do I need to download Catalyst in order for it to work properly?
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:46 AM   #2
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http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...-a-Hotfix.aspx

Note that this is only a beta preview driver, the final release is expected anytime soon so you will need to re update to the final version when it gets released.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:46 AM   #3
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You don't necessarily need it, but most game related problems are fixed by having it. It really doesn't take up much memory or processor power though (0% CPU usage and around 10MB RAM). So i think you should leave it running in my opinion. I tend to cut back on all my background processes too, but i always leave CCC.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:50 AM   #4
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well you could download the preview driver and extract the actual driver and install it manually, but... You are seriously gimping your card by not having CCC running due to the lost benefits of Catalyst AI (game specific driver optimizations) the benefits far outweigh the negatives of having the process running in the background
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:55 AM   #5
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well you could download the preview driver and extract the actual driver and install it manually, but... You are seriously gimping your card by not having CCC running due to the lost benefits of Catalyst AI (game specific driver optimizations) the benefits far outweigh the negatives of having the process running in the background
This too, plus it is useful for hd5870 users who can put on 12x (24x is just too much, you'd need around a 3GB card for that) SSAA (super sampling Anti aliasing) through the CCC to make games like l4d2 look pretty awesome.
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:00 AM   #6
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Like everyone else, I would recommend using the program. CCC is pretty useful and far easier to use than most of the other overclocking programs I have encountered. Temps are easy to monitor as well as memory clock speeds.

I'm still running the 9.11 set on my 4870's. I have found these to be the most stable, on my machine anyway. With Radeon, you generally stick with what works until you encounter a problem.

And to be honest, you probably won't notice much of a difference in load times with new drivers. The difference is minimal at best.
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:01 AM   #7
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And to be honest, you probably won't notice much of a difference in load times with new drivers. The difference is minimal at best.
Isn't that because the fix was just for the hd5 series? there should be a hd4 series fix out soon.

EDIT: according to the link above, this is that driver.
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:02 AM   #8
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Actually Hexen I would recommend the preview driver, it took my load times from about 45 seconds to maybe 10 tops, the only drawback to this is the lack of time to grab another beer/soda from the fridge in between rounds now, lol

Comfy there is a fix for the other generations now it's 10.4a preview (i believe that's the version on it anyway)
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:10 AM   #9
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Actually Hexen I would recommend the preview driver, it took my load times from about 45 seconds to maybe 10 tops, the only drawback to this is the lack of time to grab another beer/soda from the fridge in between rounds now, lol

Comfy there is a fix for the other generations now it's 10.4a preview (i believe that's the version on it anyway)
Yep, 10.4a fixes it for all cards my 4870 has 5 second load times now.
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:15 AM   #10
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Yep, 10.4a fixes it for all cards my 4870 has 5 second load times now.
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:17 AM   #11
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Well, I went back to the 9.11 after the 10.3's almost incinerated my cards. No joke. I kept getting bsods and the config file was revealing nothing. I checked the log file and my temps after the restarts, and my cards were up 20 degrees, give or take, over my previous temps. (Yes I used the manual fan control, as I always do.) So after 2 fresh installs I just went back to the 9.11's.

I might give the preview drivers a shot though. I've been stuck on the 9.11's for quite some time now.
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:22 AM   #12
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Okay, I think I'll install CCC then. The main reason I took it off because it makes my startup a bit slower.

So, does anyone know when the final drivers are being released?
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:27 AM   #13
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End of this month or beginning of the next I would imagine. Doesn't Radeon only put out one set per month?
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Old 04-25-2010, 11:13 AM   #14
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My 4890 takes a while to load this game. These should just clear that right up? If so, should I uninstall the drivers I have right now and try these or install them over it?
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Old 04-25-2010, 11:40 AM   #15
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for the preview you should uninstall the old, restart, install the preview driver, restart, enjoy fast loading of the next round
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