Suddenly Low FPS

09-20-2010, 11:29 AM

Hi, I've been having a problem lately, hoping some more technically advanced people can give me some insight. About 3 days ago, my computer has been suddenly getting extremely low fps. On steam games (mostly CSS) it juggles between 250-300 fps, the computer and video card are very top of the line. However now I seem to only get 30-60 fps, and it will often dip below into the teens during intense combat, or explosions, etc.

Hardware wise I'm wondering if this might mean my video cards going bad. It isn't getting any artifacts, the fan doesn't sound louder or quieter than usual, and it isn't running hot, which makes me think everything might be fine, but like I said I'm not as expert in this area as I'd like to be, and have never encountered this problem.

Computer specs are as follows.
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Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.100427-1636)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: OEM
System Model: OEM
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz (8 CPUs)
Memory: 2552MB RAM
Page File: 1340MB used, 3099MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6899)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6899&SUBSYS_0B001002&REV_00
Display Memory: 1024.0 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
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Any help with this is greatly appreciated. The problem was sudden and very awkward, so I regret to say I can't give any possibilities as to what might have caused it.

lo3.explicit · 09-20-2010, 11:34 AM

virus scan. check for adware/malware/spyware. if you want to test your video card to see if its faltering download and run furmark and check temps that way. reinstall drivers. thats a few things to start with.

seseorang · 09-20-2010, 02:37 PM

What do you have installed? Please give a list as full as possible - or copy your MSInfo file here

Teune · 09-20-2010, 02:40 PM

you're not the only one check this topic: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=1358270 there seems to be perfomance issues with the last update.

imeem · 09-20-2010, 03:52 PM

This is offtopic but, u should upgrade to window 7, especially with your computer specs, ram should be upgraded if going to windows 7

roxim5 · 09-20-2010, 03:57 PM

Not trying to be off topic, but why do you have Windows XP Home Edition and not Windows 7 or Vista?

That system deserves a 64-bit OS at least.

Back to topic...

What kind of Power Supply do you have? It is possible that might be the reason...

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Lol @ imeem - I was writing the same thing but got side tracked during the typing... so I posted 5 min later...

imeem · 09-20-2010, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roxim5

Not trying to be off topic, but why do you have Windows XP Home Edition and not Windows 7 or Vista?

That system deserves a 64-bit OS at least.

Back to topic...

What kind of Power Supply do you have? It is possible that might be the reason...

__________
Lol @ imeem - I was writing the same thing but got side tracked during the typing... so I posted 5 min later...

Elle Oh Elle

skoops · 09-20-2010, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teune

you're not the only one check this topic: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=1358270 there seems to be perfomance issues with the last update.

That thread wasnt started after the latest update it was made many months ago when Valve/ HPE first ported over CSS to the OB engine.The OP also stated this problem has only been occurring over the last 3 days so i think we can rule out it being a recent update issue.

Sounds like a heat problem to me or malfunctioning CPU or GPU.

09-20-2010, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imeem

This is offtopic but, u should upgrade to window 7, especially with your computer specs, ram should be upgraded if going to windows 7

I will be upgrading soon, after I built the computer I used what was available as a sort of os check to make sure everything was gravy, never bothered to upgrade though, I'm very lazy.

Currently have 6 gigs of G.Skill DDR3 SDRAM, only using 2.5, all the more reason to upgrade haha

Scanned computer, found a trojan, removed to no avail. Yes, I've reinstalled all the drivers, software wise things all seem in good order, this is why I was led to believe it was a hardware problem itself, but I've not heard of a video card going bad simply by dropping fps.

Using a Corsair 850W ATX CPU Power Supply currently, and will post msinfo here after shortly

**EDIT**

The file msinfo generated is huge, as in tons of text. Would you like something out of it that's more specific? A preferred section? That would make this much much quicker I think.

borg_7_of_9 · 09-20-2010, 04:29 PM

For get it Valve Muffed the Source engine, I have the same issue and there are more out there with this issue all valve source engine games seem to be affected one way or another....

problem with fire and water and lots of other things... Look here to give u an idea...

09-20-2010, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borg_7_of_9

For get it Valve Muffed the Source engine, I have the same issue and there are more out there with this issue all valve source engine games seem to be affected one way or another....

problem with fire and water and lots of other things... Look here to give u an idea...

That doesn't explain why it suddenly started a few days ago though. If that were the case this would have started when they made the changes yes?

borg_7_of_9 · 09-20-2010, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimothyG

That doesn't explain why it suddenly started a few days ago though. If that were the case this would have started when they made the changes yes?

That would depend on when your updates came through, I only got them last month

Wish I didn't get them at all.... Au servers seem a bit behind for content.... (DAME YOU 3FL) meh it's free download for me....

Hardwood · 09-20-2010, 06:31 PM

Check taskmanager for something hogging cpu cycles, specifically check windows update service and disable if necessary. Also check event viewer for recurring errors.

borg_7_of_9 · 09-20-2010, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardwood

Check taskmanager for something hogging cpu cycles, specifically check windows update service and disable if necessary. Also check event viewer for recurring errors.

I can't see that helping!

Lots of ppl are experiencing this issue on mid~ high-end system's

unless its a problem with ATI drivers.

seem's to happen most when there is fire on screen..

HL2-4-Life · 09-20-2010, 06:37 PM

Does this FR drop occur in other games too (non-Source)? If so, it's prolly hardware related, if not, it's the update that may have messed things up.....can't say for sure since I don't play CSS. I can say that all the single player Source games I play - HL2/Ep1/Ep2/Portal - run just fine, even my CSS VST lands me 299fps.

09-20-2010, 11:29 AM	#1
TimothyG Guest Posts: n/a	Suddenly Low FPS Hi, I've been having a problem lately, hoping some more technically advanced people can give me some insight. About 3 days ago, my computer has been suddenly getting extremely low fps. On steam games (mostly CSS) it juggles between 250-300 fps, the computer and video card are very top of the line. However now I seem to only get 30-60 fps, and it will often dip below into the teens during intense combat, or explosions, etc. Hardware wise I'm wondering if this might mean my video cards going bad. It isn't getting any artifacts, the fan doesn't sound louder or quieter than usual, and it isn't running hot, which makes me think everything might be fine, but like I said I'm not as expert in this area as I'd like to be, and have never encountered this problem. Computer specs are as follows. ---------------------------------- Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.100427-1636) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: OEM System Model: OEM BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz (8 CPUs) Memory: 2552MB RAM Page File: 1340MB used, 3099MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6899) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6899&SUBSYS_0B001002&REV_00 Display Memory: 1024.0 MB Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor -------------------------------- Any help with this is greatly appreciated. The problem was sudden and very awkward, so I regret to say I can't give any possibilities as to what might have caused it.

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09-20-2010, 11:34 AM	#2
lo3.explicit Join Date: Feb 2010 Reputation: 147 Posts: 776	virus scan. check for adware/malware/spyware. if you want to test your video card to see if its faltering download and run furmark and check temps that way. reinstall drivers. thats a few things to start with.

09-20-2010, 02:37 PM	#3
seseorang Join Date: Feb 2010 Reputation: 683 Posts: 7,228	What do you have installed? Please give a list as full as possible - or copy your MSInfo file here

09-20-2010, 02:40 PM	#4
Teune Join Date: Sep 2006 Reputation: 0 Posts: 52	you're not the only one check this topic: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=1358270 there seems to be perfomance issues with the last update.

09-20-2010, 03:52 PM	#5
imeem Join Date: Aug 2008 Reputation: 779 Posts: 2,767	This is offtopic but, u should upgrade to window 7, especially with your computer specs, ram should be upgraded if going to windows 7

09-20-2010, 03:57 PM	#6
roxim5 Join Date: Aug 2010 Reputation: 93 Posts: 420	Not trying to be off topic, but why do you have Windows XP Home Edition and not Windows 7 or Vista? That system deserves a 64-bit OS at least. Back to topic... What kind of Power Supply do you have? It is possible that might be the reason... __________ Lol @ imeem - I was writing the same thing but got side tracked during the typing... so I posted 5 min later...

09-20-2010, 04:29 PM	#10
borg_7_of_9 Join Date: Nov 2007 Reputation: 2604 Posts: 12,710	For get it Valve Muffed the Source engine, I have the same issue and there are more out there with this issue all valve source engine games seem to be affected one way or another.... problem with fire and water and lots of other things... Look here to give u an idea...

09-20-2010, 06:31 PM	#13
Hardwood Join Date: Apr 2004 Reputation: 843 Posts: 2,908	Check taskmanager for something hogging cpu cycles, specifically check windows update service and disable if necessary. Also check event viewer for recurring errors.

09-20-2010, 06:37 PM	#15
HL2-4-Life Join Date: Feb 2005 Reputation: 824 Posts: 7,057	Does this FR drop occur in other games too (non-Source)? If so, it's prolly hardware related, if not, it's the update that may have messed things up.....can't say for sure since I don't play CSS. I can say that all the single player Source games I play - HL2/Ep1/Ep2/Portal - run just fine, even my CSS VST lands me 299fps.