Polynomial still not working! (Mac)

redskinlad · 10-18-2010, 12:44 PM

I've been anxiously awaiting to play this game, and I heard that the update was today (which I think it did). I double click the game and the icon comes up and bounces in the dock, the screen turns black, and then it just reverts back to the desktop. What should I do?

I'm running on a new MacBook Pro.

Thanks in advance!

Dmytry · 10-18-2010, 12:49 PM

What OS X version? 10.5.8 is officially below system requirements.

redskinlad · 10-18-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmytry

What OS X version? 10.5.8 is officially below system requirements.

It's that, and that would've been great to know before I purchased this. You as the developer should take some responsibility in either fixing this problem or refunding my purchase.

Dihard · 10-18-2010, 12:59 PM

The minimum requirements are listed right on the Store page...

Saijin_Naib · 10-18-2010, 01:00 PM

You as the purchaser should take some responsibility in reading the store page which quite clearly states the system REQUIREMENTS.

Or, even better yet, try out the demo.

Dmytry · 10-18-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by redskinlad

It's that, and that would've been great to know before I purchased this. You as the developer should take some responsibility in either fixing this problem or refunding my purchase.

Actually, the game page always said:

Quote:

Mac System Requirements
OS: OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.3, or later.
Processor: Intel Mac 1.5GHz or better
Memory: 512MB
Graphics: 256MB video memory, 512MB recommended.
Video: OpenGL: 2.1 , GLSL: 1.2
Hard Drive: 100MB

I simply don't have 10.5.8 box to test with. I'm releasing another update i think sometime soon today, it *might* fix this (but i cant know).

redskinlad · 10-18-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmytry

Actually, the game page always said:

I simply don't have 10.5.8 box to test with. I'm releasing another update i think sometime soon today, it *might* fix this (but i cant know).

Is there any chance you could reply in this thread if you do update? I'd really appreciate it, I'm not trying to be rude I'm just frustrated.

Dmytry · 10-18-2010, 01:16 PM

Updated.

edit: also, try it twice. It tries to fix that issue by detecting a crash and falling back to safer option.

redskinlad · 10-18-2010, 01:26 PM

And of course Steam won't connect now XD. I'll let you know asap.

edit: Negatory=/ Looks like I'm dropping another 30 on the new update, which they don't even let you download online, it has to be shipped!=/

ImBack87 · 10-18-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by redskinlad

And of course Steam won't connect now XD. I'll let you know asap.

edit: Negatory=/ Looks like I'm dropping another 30 on the new update, which they don't even let you download online, it has to be shipped!=/

Wait, what? You mac users have to BUY updates?

Saijin_Naib · 10-18-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ImBack87

Wait, what? You mac users have to BUY updates?

I believe he means update to Snow Leopard. The equivalent would be akin to going from Vista (NT 6.0) to Windows 7 (NT 6.1) or Windows 2k (NT 5.0) to XP (NT 5.1).

Dmytry · 10-18-2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Saijin_Naib

I believe he means update to Snow Leopard. The equivalent would be akin to going from Vista (NT 6.0) to Windows 7 (NT 6.1) or Windows 2k (NT 5.0) to XP (NT 5.1).

Well hmm to be honest as a developer i'd disagree. It'd be equivalent to going fom windows xp to windows xp sp 1. edit: 2k to xp is close though, barely any technological difference.

Saijin_Naib · 10-18-2010, 02:15 PM

Oh okay, I was thinking from an End-User perspective. So at a core level, the Leopard and Snow Leopard platforms aren't that different to develop for?

redskinlad · 10-18-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmytry

Well hmm to be honest as a developer i'd disagree. It'd be equivalent to going fom windows xp to windows xp sp 1. edit: 2k to xp is close though, barely any technological difference.

He's right, as I read through the list, there's very minor changes and nothing system-changing from what I read. But I gave in and bought it because it's giving my others games problems (like torchlight).

Dmytry · 10-18-2010, 02:27 PM

Well, yes, there are always very bad changes, as in, new APIs for same features get introduced and old APIs stop working.

Actually, thee is no real parallel. I started developing The Polynomial on Mac with support for 10.4 , about a year and 4 months ago (10.5 was then-current, and it worked fine with 10.5). In 10.5 they deprecated the API I was using (Carbon, the C/C++ API), and things began to stop working in subtle yet highly bad ways, so i had to switch over to Cocoa API (Objective C), which is not new in any way (they had it since as long as they had Carbon). So this time naturally I did not want to repeat my mistake, and tried to use more recent APIs. As far as gaming goes, there were some positive changes in 10.5 and 10.6, most notably, fullscreen is MUCH easier to initialize now. But nonetheless. If I were to just use 10.5 features, then I'd be afraid of big scary 10.7 coming out and spoiling my release.

10-18-2010, 12:44 PM	#1
redskinlad Join Date: Oct 2010 Reputation: 0 Posts: 20	Polynomial still not working! (Mac) I've been anxiously awaiting to play this game, and I heard that the update was today (which I think it did). I double click the game and the icon comes up and bounces in the dock, the screen turns black, and then it just reverts back to the desktop. What should I do? I'm running on a new MacBook Pro. Thanks in advance!

10-18-2010, 01:16 PM	#8
Dmytry The Polynomial Team Join Date: Oct 2010 Reputation: 1162 Posts: 635	Updated. edit: also, try it twice. It tries to fix that issue by detecting a crash and falling back to safer option. Last edited by Dmytry: 10-18-2010 at 01:20 PM.

10-18-2010, 02:27 PM	#15
Dmytry The Polynomial Team Join Date: Oct 2010 Reputation: 1162 Posts: 635	Well, yes, there are always very bad changes, as in, new APIs for same features get introduced and old APIs stop working. Actually, thee is no real parallel. I started developing The Polynomial on Mac with support for 10.4 , about a year and 4 months ago (10.5 was then-current, and it worked fine with 10.5). In 10.5 they deprecated the API I was using (Carbon, the C/C++ API), and things began to stop working in subtle yet highly bad ways, so i had to switch over to Cocoa API (Objective C), which is not new in any way (they had it since as long as they had Carbon). So this time naturally I did not want to repeat my mistake, and tried to use more recent APIs. As far as gaming goes, there were some positive changes in 10.5 and 10.6, most notably, fullscreen is MUCH easier to initialize now. But nonetheless. If I were to just use 10.5 features, then I'd be afraid of big scary 10.7 coming out and spoiling my release. Last edited by Dmytry: 10-18-2010 at 02:29 PM.

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10-18-2010, 12:49 PM	#2
Dmytry The Polynomial Team Join Date: Oct 2010 Reputation: 1162 Posts: 635	What OS X version? 10.5.8 is officially below system requirements.

10-18-2010, 12:59 PM	#4
Dihard Join Date: Dec 2007 Reputation: 0 Posts: 22	The minimum requirements are listed right on the Store page...

10-18-2010, 01:00 PM	#5
Saijin_Naib Foreign Legion: BoB forum Volunteer Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Reputation: 663 Posts: 3,433	You as the purchaser should take some responsibility in reading the store page which quite clearly states the system REQUIREMENTS. Or, even better yet, try out the demo.

10-18-2010, 01:26 PM	#9
redskinlad Join Date: Oct 2010 Reputation: 0 Posts: 20	And of course Steam won't connect now XD. I'll let you know asap. edit: Negatory=/ Looks like I'm dropping another 30 on the new update, which they don't even let you download online, it has to be shipped!=/

10-18-2010, 02:15 PM	#13
Saijin_Naib Foreign Legion: BoB forum Volunteer Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Reputation: 663 Posts: 3,433	Oh okay, I was thinking from an End-User perspective. So at a core level, the Leopard and Snow Leopard platforms aren't that different to develop for?