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Old 10-22-2010, 01:41 PM   #1
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Does valve get a cut of retail games you can activate on steam

Today I bought Fallout New Vegas from Gamestation(UK) and it cost me £29.99. I have just now activated it on steam and installed the game via the DVD.

I was going to buy on Steam but because I got paid this morning, I though Steams price would rise to £34.99 before I got home (but it hasn't). So instead today I pop into to my local gamestation store and bought the game retail.

Do valve get the same cut from the retail version, less or nothing at all and do valve really care if you buy via steam or retail?

I would buy all my games on steam but if I can get the same game for £5 or £10 cheaper im going to buy that (only if you can activate it on steam that it).
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Old 10-22-2010, 01:46 PM   #2
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I am sure Valve gets a cut.
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Old 10-22-2010, 01:48 PM   #3
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Valve gets no money from retail games activated on Steam based on last available info - maybe the get some money based on contract with publisher, but such contracts are under NDA and we will likely never see such contract.

Retail is selling games cheaper than Steam, because retailers are blackmailing publishers that if they allow Steam and/or similar service to lower prices, those retailers would refuse to sell such games.
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Old 10-22-2010, 02:07 PM   #4
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Valve get's a cut if the game uses Steamwroks I am sure but if it is just a game that doesn't incoporate this then they don't get niche
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Old 10-22-2010, 02:09 PM   #5
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Steamworks is free to use.

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Old 10-22-2010, 02:21 PM   #6
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Page 3: http://www.steampowered.com/steamwor...ochure2010.pdf

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Cost to partners and users
$0 paid by partners for bandwidth.
$0 paid by partners for updating and patching.
$0 paid by partners for cloud storage.
$0 paid by partners for Steamworks features.
$0 paid by partners for retail activation and
authentication.

$0 paid by partners for technical support.
$0 charged to users for account and features.
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:01 PM   #7
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Steamworks is free to use.
Steamworks free for game developers to use but who pays for all the bandwidth, up-keep of servers and everyday costs.

Does it matter if some of your gsmes are retail. My Steam games are mostly Steam bought and maybe about 6 or 7 are retail.
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:09 PM   #8
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Valve pays for the bandwidth. They make it back by having a direct relationship with an expanding user base.
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:10 PM   #9
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Steamworks free for game developers to use but who pays for all the bandwidth, up-keep of servers and everyday costs.

Does it matter if some of your gsmes are retail. My Steam games are mostly Steam bought and maybe about 6 or 7 are retail.
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:16 PM   #10
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Valve pays for the bandwidth. They make it back by having a direct relationship with an expanding user base.
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:22 PM   #11
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:52 PM   #12
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Retail is selling games cheaper than Steam, because retailers are blackmailing publishers that if they allow Steam and/or similar service to lower prices, those retailers would refuse to sell such games.
Not sure this is true. According to my local GamesStation. They're pulling out of the PC market and focusing on console games, with the sole exception of the top 20 games. They're claiming it's due to rampant piracy which has driven sales out the window. They have to sell the games cheap as possible to make any profit.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:58 PM   #13
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Every system has rampant piracy except the ps3, and you can expect that to change because it has recently supposedly been hacked. They are pulling out of the pc market because half of all pc games is sold digitally and the market has shrunk while consoles have exploded in the last decade and they have to go to where the money is.
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