Does valve get a cut of retail games you can activate on steam

Ganger · 10-22-2010, 12:41 PM

Today I bought Fallout New Vegas from Gamestation(UK) and it cost me £29.99. I have just now activated it on steam and installed the game via the DVD.

I was going to buy on Steam but because I got paid this morning, I though Steams price would rise to £34.99 before I got home (but it hasn't). So instead today I pop into to my local gamestation store and bought the game retail.

Do valve get the same cut from the retail version, less or nothing at all and do valve really care if you buy via steam or retail?

I would buy all my games on steam but if I can get the same game for £5 or £10 cheaper im going to buy that (only if you can activate it on steam that it).

Onoku · 10-22-2010, 12:46 PM

I am sure Valve gets a cut.

Rebel44 · 10-22-2010, 12:48 PM

Valve gets no money from retail games activated on Steam based on last available info - maybe the get some money based on contract with publisher, but such contracts are under NDA and we will likely never see such contract.

Retail is selling games cheaper than Steam, because retailers are blackmailing publishers that if they allow Steam and/or similar service to lower prices, those retailers would refuse to sell such games.

WarLokk1980 · 10-22-2010, 01:07 PM

Valve get's a cut if the game uses Steamwroks I am sure but if it is just a game that doesn't incoporate this then they don't get niche

Yoshiro · 10-22-2010, 01:09 PM

Steamworks is free to use.

Andy83 · 10-22-2010, 01:21 PM

Page 3: http://www.steampowered.com/steamwor...ochure2010.pdf

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Cost to partners and users
$0 paid by partners for bandwidth.
$0 paid by partners for updating and patching.
$0 paid by partners for cloud storage.
$0 paid by partners for Steamworks features.
$0 paid by partners for retail activation and
authentication.
$0 paid by partners for technical support.
$0 charged to users for account and features.

Ganger · 10-22-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshiro

Steamworks is free to use.

Steamworks free for game developers to use but who pays for all the bandwidth, up-keep of servers and everyday costs.

Does it matter if some of your gsmes are retail. My Steam games are mostly Steam bought and maybe about 6 or 7 are retail.

hahnchen · 10-22-2010, 02:09 PM

Valve pays for the bandwidth. They make it back by having a direct relationship with an expanding user base.

Yoshiro · 10-22-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ganger

Steamworks free for game developers to use but who pays for all the bandwidth, up-keep of servers and everyday costs.

Does it matter if some of your gsmes are retail. My Steam games are mostly Steam bought and maybe about 6 or 7 are retail.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy83

Page 3: http://www.steampowered.com/steamwor...ochure2010.pdf

This

Pilotclan9404 · 10-22-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hahnchen

Valve pays for the bandwidth. They make it back by having a direct relationship with an expanding user base.

This

xGreg · 10-22-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy83

Page 3: http://www.steampowered.com/steamwor...ochure2010.pdf

Thanks for the info!

Ryuubei · 10-22-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebel44

Retail is selling games cheaper than Steam, because retailers are blackmailing publishers that if they allow Steam and/or similar service to lower prices, those retailers would refuse to sell such games.

Not sure this is true. According to my local GamesStation. They're pulling out of the PC market and focusing on console games, with the sole exception of the top 20 games. They're claiming it's due to rampant piracy which has driven sales out the window. They have to sell the games cheap as possible to make any profit.

cwbys21 · 10-22-2010, 06:58 PM

Every system has rampant piracy except the ps3, and you can expect that to change because it has recently supposedly been hacked. They are pulling out of the pc market because half of all pc games is sold digitally and the market has shrunk while consoles have exploded in the last decade and they have to go to where the money is.

10-22-2010, 12:41 PM	#1
Ganger Join Date: Mar 2008 Reputation: 255 Posts: 2,461	Does valve get a cut of retail games you can activate on steam Today I bought Fallout New Vegas from Gamestation(UK) and it cost me £29.99. I have just now activated it on steam and installed the game via the DVD. I was going to buy on Steam but because I got paid this morning, I though Steams price would rise to £34.99 before I got home (but it hasn't). So instead today I pop into to my local gamestation store and bought the game retail. Do valve get the same cut from the retail version, less or nothing at all and do valve really care if you buy via steam or retail? I would buy all my games on steam but if I can get the same game for £5 or £10 cheaper im going to buy that (only if you can activate it on steam that it).

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Yoshiro Tripwire Interactive Join Date: Oct 2004 Reputation: 1529 Posts: 5,675	Steamworks is free to use. Last edited by Yoshiro: 10-22-2010 at 01:38 PM.

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10-22-2010, 12:46 PM	#2
Onoku Join Date: Oct 2010 Reputation: 116 Posts: 21	I am sure Valve gets a cut.

10-22-2010, 12:48 PM	#3
Rebel44 Join Date: May 2008 Reputation: 151 Posts: 869	Valve gets no money from retail games activated on Steam based on last available info - maybe the get some money based on contract with publisher, but such contracts are under NDA and we will likely never see such contract. Retail is selling games cheaper than Steam, because retailers are blackmailing publishers that if they allow Steam and/or similar service to lower prices, those retailers would refuse to sell such games.

10-22-2010, 01:07 PM	#4
WarLokk1980 Join Date: Mar 2009 Reputation: 97 Posts: 1,085	Valve get's a cut if the game uses Steamwroks I am sure but if it is just a game that doesn't incoporate this then they don't get niche

10-22-2010, 02:09 PM	#8
hahnchen Join Date: Sep 2003 Reputation: 279 Posts: 1,313	Valve pays for the bandwidth. They make it back by having a direct relationship with an expanding user base.

10-22-2010, 06:58 PM	#13
cwbys21 Join Date: Nov 2008 Reputation: 400 Posts: 1,161	Every system has rampant piracy except the ps3, and you can expect that to change because it has recently supposedly been hacked. They are pulling out of the pc market because half of all pc games is sold digitally and the market has shrunk while consoles have exploded in the last decade and they have to go to where the money is.