Unofficial List of Steam Games with DRM

[epsylon_Z1]

Originally Posted by bb10

Shank seems to be using 3rd party DRM called SolidShield.

"GAME USES SOLIDSHIELD CONTENT PROTECTION TECHNOLOGY. (WWW.SOLIDSHIELD.COM). GAME CAN BE PLAYED ON UP TO TWENTY COMPUTERS AT THE SAME TIME; USERS CAN MANAGE WHICH COMPUTERS ARE AUTHORIZED OR DE-AUTHORIZED TO PLAY GAME."

you know , it's impossible with the Steam version

[bb10]

Originally Posted by epsylon_Z1

you know , it's impossible with the Steam version

Yep, which makes it completely useless.

EDIT: SolidShield seems to be from the company that makes Tages.

http://www.solidshield.com/en
"Copyright © Tages SAS, 2010. All rights are reserved."

[flava_clown]

Originally Posted by Mikouen

Just pointing out that the limits on Alpha Protocol, Borderlands, and GTA4: EFLC are for simultaneous activations, and also deactivate themselves during uninstallation.

that's not 100% correct, at least in case of borderlands you need a "revoke tool" to get your activation back.

https://support.securom.com/pop_borderlands.html
http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com...ad.php?t=90096

[SuperCake]

Doesn't DMC3 and 4 have SecuRom? Capcom used to love using that on all their games before they switched to GFWL.

It states on another site, that has a list of DRM'd games (don't wanna link the site here because not sure if it's allowed), they both have SecuRom, but Im not sure if that's only for non-Steam versions.

[541n7]

It still angers me that they can dare to put a limit on the amount of times you can install a game. IDIOTS. You are penalizing the very people who lined your pockets by Legally and legitimately purchasing your product. WHY. How can they be that STUPID. It's things like that that start to turn people to illegal downloads. DRM just doesn't work. Applications like steam do far more to curb piracy than DRM. I won't knowingly buy a game that I know to have that kind of DRM because I refuse to support it.

[flibitijibibo]

Holy Jesus, I've totally missed the last couple of days with this thread. For some reason the subscribe button didn't quite do its job the first time.

Just posting to say that I'm updating the info. Will edit when it's finished.

EDIT:

Updates:
- Battlestations Pacific fix
- Added to Other DRM:

• Shank, Solidshield
• ARMA 2, FADE

Requests:
- GTAIV Complete information (US only? SecuROM/DRM free?)
- Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition information (DRM free?)
- The Witcher information (TAGES?)

Future Updates:
- I am trying to rewrite the DRM list to make 2 large sections: software-based DRM and account-based DRM. Here's a quote from the old thread:

As of now, I'd prefer to limit it to accounts that are involved in activation, such as Rockstar Club and EA accounts. There are simply too many games which have proprietary accounts and other non-intrusive checks (CD key input, for example) that do not serve as DRM.

Updated to remove UT3 from the list. With this new policy, I would also like to begin adding games that have their own account-based activation system, such as EA accounts and Rockstar Club. I consider these DRM because they act similarly to Steam DRM, but without the special client/service.

To those unfamiliar: I have two EA accounts. One is from the old EA system, and the other is from the new EA system. The old EA account has Battlefield 2142 on it, and my new account only has the Medal of Honor beta. The new account is an EA master ID, and my old account needs a master ID, but it will only allow me to create an ID, rather than just allowing me to add the ID to my new account. And, because BF2142's CD key is permanently registered to the old account (a la Steam), I HAVE to log in to BF2142 with my old account.

So, with this in mind: Please post any games with these types of systems.

Edit: I should clarify something for those confused or worried: I'm going to split the DRM list into two categories: Software-based DRM and Account-based DRM. These will be separated in such a way that allows for differentiating between the two and more easily identifying what type of DRM is more intrusive than the other (especially for those who are less concerned with DRM like EA accounts/GFWL).

I should have reposted it here, sorry for the confusion.

[Kloreep]

I remember reading that Witcher shipped with DRM initially, but I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be removed on all platforms in one of the big updates they did.

Unfortunately though, I own it through a different service, so I can't check it for you.

[flibitijibibo]

I checked it out; it was in fact removed in a patch. This apparently only applies to The Witcher itself; but I can't exactly decipher what else they could be talking about (versus?): http://www.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?topic=17503.0

Updated to include The Witcher in Section 6.

Edit: Also looked into Blood Bowl. It has SecuROM, same activation limits: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=1532298

Added.

[Mac Flavor]

With the 90% MLB sale from 2K right now, I'm curious about MLB 2K10 and Front Office Manager. Looks like 2K9 has SecuROM, but the other two titles don't mention DRM one way or the other.

BTW, glad to see this thread reborn. Are we now on the Patrick Troughton incarnation, or have we moved on to Jon Pertwee?

[mouton]

You might want to change the title to "games with 3rd party DRM". It's just a minor detail, but that would be more precise.

[flibitijibibo]

Originally Posted by Mac Flavor

With the 90% MLB sale from 2K right now, I'm curious about MLB 2K10 and Front Office Manager. Looks like 2K9 has SecuROM, but the other two titles don't mention DRM one way or the other.

BTW, glad to see this thread reborn. Are we now on the Patrick Troughton incarnation, or have we moved on to Jon Pertwee?

Haw haw

2K9 uses a CD check, but the other 2 are DRM-free as far as the Intermanets can tell.

Also, I cannot change the thread title, only the subject of the OP. I'll change it if I'm ever given the ability to do so (I should have asked when we moved this to the proper section).

[flibitijibibo]

Goodness me, it's been a while since I've had to add something to the list. I guess CoD 2010 thinned out the releases for this quarter. Yay aggressive crowd-outs for Tide bleach Activision titles!

Added Divinity II to SecuROM. Thanks remm!

[railforge]

Originally Posted by flibitijibibo

Risen; 3 machine limit, 1 activation added back every 45 days.

There's been some debate about this in the Risen subforum.

No one there has seen any remotely official information that activations are returned after 45-days. The Steam page mentions the "3 machine limit", but nothing about 45-days. Returning activations is a Tages ability whose use is "decided by the publisher for each batch of keys".

To be sure, no one has yet claimed to have run into the 3-machine limit and then been unable to get more activations after 45-days, but nonetheless the dialog has been... heated. Since no one wants to deliberately run into the limit, none of us knows the truth for certain.

The Unofficial List of Steam Games with DRM seems to be the only source of the 45-days info that we can find, though maybe our Google-fu is weak. Can you please shed some light on where that info came from?

[flibitijibibo]

That information was on the list when I picked it up, so I unfortunately do not have the sources to back it up. For all I know it could have just been assumed because of the other products' x-day policy (which, as you've cited, isn't always there).

I like how the only way we can test it is by deliberately destroying the product, too. The developer won't put out a statement?

[railforge]

I'll let you know if I get an informative response from them.