Medic Machine guns are so OP for the class

Smeagolthevile · 01-03-2011, 01:38 PM

I really dont get this, its the only thing Im not understanding about this game.
A: why do engineers have silenced SMGs while medics have heavy machine guns, up until recently medics did not even carry weapons besides maybe a side arm.
B: how do they make excuses for a MACHINE GUN, something that NEEDS a tripod or to be braced In order for it to not fly up and shoot birds, to be able to be used as a rifle, with little to no kick, good accuracy and a massive clip?

I have seen that gun used in place of assault rifles and in place of sniper rifles with it's accuracy and just huge clip, using it to snipe people from across the map.

Guano- · 01-03-2011, 01:44 PM

A: Because every other class as a secondary weapon to use (IE: RPG, Tube, Mortar/C4).

Think how unbalanced it would be for a sniper, Engineer or Assault to run around with a LMG with the secondary weapons they get.

B. It is a Game.

Twombly · 01-03-2011, 01:50 PM

I don't see how this late in the game you can possibly think you're some sort of visionary coming out with this new theory that's never been heard before.

We've been fine with it since March, I don't think it's a pressing matter.

And as far as medics not carrying weapons, you do realize medics in real war and medics in battlefield are different, right? Something makes me think smacking someone upside the head with a box won't heal them like it does in battlefield, which more or less invalidates the practicality argument.

Ace Quat · 01-03-2011, 01:54 PM

lmgs may have high ammo count, but also usually slow rate of fire, terrible accuracy @ mid-long range and NO EXPLOSIVES except one nade

everything is perfectly balanced, move along.

PoIson895 · 01-03-2011, 01:55 PM

They have high magazine counts and some of the lowest damage values in the game..... I don't see the problem.

Kalabalana · 01-03-2011, 02:01 PM

Actually he's correct, medic is actually, point-wise, the OP class. A slight nerf to the weapons could bring it down to the other classes. But yes, this is nothing new.

bobsbarricades · 01-03-2011, 02:01 PM

I think, as a game, it's fairly balanced. I thought it strange, but... its a game. and it is well balanced.

if only voip worked...

Kalabalana · 01-03-2011, 02:04 PM

Naw, the game is not balanced.

Zefar · 01-03-2011, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace Quat

lmgs may have high ammo count, but also usually slow rate of fire, terrible accuracy @ mid-long range and NO EXPLOSIVES except one nade

everything is perfectly balanced, move along.

Actually, LMG have a rather high fire rate with the exception of M60. Their accuracy rivals those great Assault rifles and MG36 could be seen as the best weapon in the game.

They work lovely on close, medium and long range all though on long range it's only really good for the MG36.

Not sure if you've used the LMG that often but I and my brother have. They are quite deadly mind you.

I don't see a problem though. The Assault rifles can still kill pretty quick.

Alex1981 · 01-03-2011, 02:13 PM

I find assault rifles to be more accurate. At least that's how they've worked for me. I get higher headshot ratios with ARs, too.

Smeagolthevile · 01-03-2011, 03:24 PM

First, some of us only got the game.
As far as the 'its only a game' well, the red orchestra game and mods require machine guns to be mounted to have any kind of accuracy with the firepower they give. ALSO day of defeat source requires the same exact thing.

The issue is that it is a jack of all trades weapon. SMGs are for close range only for the most part, Assault rifles are not the best for close range, best for medium to long range, the sniper rifles are best for extreme long ranges, it can work at medium, and cant work at short at all. but a MG can do close range with the high rate of fire and tear people up, at medium range its very good and at long range its accurate enough with it's ammo capacity to snipe-ish.

heyguysitsme · 01-03-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Smeagolthevile

I really dont get this, its the only thing Im not understanding about this game.
A: why do engineers have silenced SMGs while medics have heavy machine guns, up until recently medics did not even carry weapons besides maybe a side arm.
B: how do they make excuses for a MACHINE GUN, something that NEEDS a tripod or to be braced In order for it to not fly up and shoot birds, to be able to be used as a rifle, with little to no kick, good accuracy and a massive clip?

I have seen that gun used in place of assault rifles and in place of sniper rifles with it's accuracy and just huge clip, using it to snipe people from across the map.

My brother in law is a medic, he also carries a SAW through 130 degree weather and does not need a tripod. Another squad in the same platoon carries (2) M60's...no tripod. You just have to be in fit shape...and like above said, its just a video game. If you can't beat them, join them. Unless you're so used to the recon kit...

Smeagolthevile · 01-03-2011, 03:45 PM

Bi pod and Tripod.
Tripods are mounted for fixed positions and can be closed up and carried, Bipods are attached to the front.
Ill put money on if your brother is firing a machine gun from a standing position without bracing it on something he is either superman or a moron.

Guhn.E · 01-03-2011, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smeagolthevile

B: how do they make excuses for a MACHINE GUN, something that NEEDS a tripod or to be braced In order for it to not fly up and shoot birds, to be able to be used as a rifle, with little to no kick, good accuracy and a massive clip?

Ask this guy how many birds he took out without using a bi/tripod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4nfZu8VqgQ

heyguysitsme · 01-03-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Smeagolthevile

Bi pod and Tripod.
Tripods are mounted for fixed positions and can be closed up and carried, Bipods are attached to the front.
Ill put money on if your brother is firing a machine gun from a standing position without bracing it on something he is either superman or a moron.

Stay classy....

01-03-2011, 01:38 PM	#1
Smeagolthevile Join Date: Jun 2009 Reputation: 90 Posts: 901	Medic Machine guns are so OP for the class I really dont get this, its the only thing Im not understanding about this game. A: why do engineers have silenced SMGs while medics have heavy machine guns, up until recently medics did not even carry weapons besides maybe a side arm. B: how do they make excuses for a MACHINE GUN, something that NEEDS a tripod or to be braced In order for it to not fly up and shoot birds, to be able to be used as a rifle, with little to no kick, good accuracy and a massive clip? I have seen that gun used in place of assault rifles and in place of sniper rifles with it's accuracy and just huge clip, using it to snipe people from across the map.

01-03-2011, 01:50 PM	#3
Twombly Join Date: Mar 2010 Reputation: 109 Posts: 1,261	I don't see how this late in the game you can possibly think you're some sort of visionary coming out with this new theory that's never been heard before. We've been fine with it since March, I don't think it's a pressing matter. And as far as medics not carrying weapons, you do realize medics in real war and medics in battlefield are different, right? Something makes me think smacking someone upside the head with a box won't heal them like it does in battlefield, which more or less invalidates the practicality argument. Last edited by Twombly: 01-03-2011 at 01:52 PM.

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01-03-2011, 01:44 PM	#2
Guano- Join Date: Dec 2008 Reputation: 13 Posts: 228	A: Because every other class as a secondary weapon to use (IE: RPG, Tube, Mortar/C4). Think how unbalanced it would be for a sniper, Engineer or Assault to run around with a LMG with the secondary weapons they get. B. It is a Game.

01-03-2011, 01:54 PM	#4
Ace Quat Join Date: Jul 2006 Reputation: 190 Posts: 3,150	lmgs may have high ammo count, but also usually slow rate of fire, terrible accuracy @ mid-long range and NO EXPLOSIVES except one nade everything is perfectly balanced, move along.

01-03-2011, 01:55 PM	#5
PoIson895 Join Date: Apr 2009 Reputation: 163 Posts: 2,426	They have high magazine counts and some of the lowest damage values in the game..... I don't see the problem.

01-03-2011, 02:01 PM	#6
Kalabalana Join Date: Dec 2003 Reputation: 188 Posts: 4,361	Actually he's correct, medic is actually, point-wise, the OP class. A slight nerf to the weapons could bring it down to the other classes. But yes, this is nothing new.

01-03-2011, 02:01 PM	#7
bobsbarricades Join Date: Oct 2008 Reputation: 557 Posts: 4,077	I think, as a game, it's fairly balanced. I thought it strange, but... its a game. and it is well balanced. if only voip worked...

01-03-2011, 02:04 PM	#8
Kalabalana Join Date: Dec 2003 Reputation: 188 Posts: 4,361	Naw, the game is not balanced.

01-03-2011, 02:13 PM	#10
Alex1981 Join Date: Jan 2010 Reputation: 226 Posts: 2,629	I find assault rifles to be more accurate. At least that's how they've worked for me. I get higher headshot ratios with ARs, too.

01-03-2011, 03:24 PM	#11
Smeagolthevile Join Date: Jun 2009 Reputation: 90 Posts: 901	First, some of us only got the game. As far as the 'its only a game' well, the red orchestra game and mods require machine guns to be mounted to have any kind of accuracy with the firepower they give. ALSO day of defeat source requires the same exact thing. The issue is that it is a jack of all trades weapon. SMGs are for close range only for the most part, Assault rifles are not the best for close range, best for medium to long range, the sniper rifles are best for extreme long ranges, it can work at medium, and cant work at short at all. but a MG can do close range with the high rate of fire and tear people up, at medium range its very good and at long range its accurate enough with it's ammo capacity to snipe-ish.

01-03-2011, 03:45 PM	#13
Smeagolthevile Join Date: Jun 2009 Reputation: 90 Posts: 901	Bi pod and Tripod. Tripods are mounted for fixed positions and can be closed up and carried, Bipods are attached to the front. Ill put money on if your brother is firing a machine gun from a standing position without bracing it on something he is either superman or a moron.