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Old 03-12-2011, 03:53 AM   #1
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Exclamation TF2 = A game not made by professionals?

First off, I've been playing TF2 since it's release. I LOVE the updates it receives, but the game is slowly stooping down with each update.

Instead of releasing each new item pack, why dont valve perfect the stuff they already have in the game? TF2 was released a high quality product, only having like 1or 2 cosmetic issues in the game. And that would probably be the Demoman sticky launcher not being held with two hands & pipe launcher. Although the pipe was not too bad imo.

Now there are about 3 to 4 cosmetic bugs per new gun, and I am not sure about other people, but for me it is very off putting. Seeing as there are more new guns that default guns, it is very visible how buggy and unpolished the new content is.

So my suggestion:

Valve should stop giving us new things for the moment - and just fix every cosmetic bug there is - then focus on more content again. Valve are supposed to be professional developers, atm TF2 looks like a game thrown together by a few people.

Heck, FPSBanana have tons of fixes which would help VALVe on the way.

Examples:

-Fix all the clipping issues with hats, misc items, new weapons. (Demos Glasses and some hats clip horribly)

-Fix sniper having 2 gloves in client view, but 1 in world.
-Update heavy HUD picture so he has gloves
-Fix the sticky launchers missing a hand
-Fix pipe launcher 6 slots 1 slot reload
-Fix rocket launchers reloading invisible rockets
-Fix a lot of melee weapons having the wrong sounds.
-Fix sydney sleeper bolt action not moving.
-Fix holy mackeral twisting and looking strange
-Fix short stop hammer not moving
-Add in straps around the charge n targe and razorback- like the danger shield.
-Fix heavies hands clipping through new miniguns when he taunts.
-Fix sandvich not having a chunk missing after eating.
-Fix invisible magazine on luger
-Fix all new revolvers lacking a proper reload, and chambering. Especially Ambassadors lack of bullet hole?
-Make crusader crossbow actually fire properly. Atm it fires an invisible huntsman.
-Fix the loch-n-load. Seriously, the sight and reload is screwed
-Fix CandyCane clipping through scouts hands
-Fix Battalion packup clipping through soldiers primary
-Fix pain train and frying pan on demo. They clip. and they are held....all wrong.
-Fix samurai sword on soldier
-Fix power jack clipping upon taunt, and the back scratcher.
-Fix Caber clipping
-Fix warriors spriit clipping, and having wrong sounds.
-Fix iron curtain muzzle flash being a bit far out.
-Fix fists of steel clipping
-Fix jag clipping
-Fix some of the spy knives clipping
-Fix pipe launcher having invisible grenades. wtf?
-Fix jiggle-bone on a lot of items "vibrating"}
-Add jigglebone to jarate.
Fix Sticky Jumper/Launcher using the old Scottish Resistance skin on the world model, when on Blu team.


The list goes on, and on, and on. Let me know if you know anymore, and I'll add the rest later. It will take me a looonnggg time.

If you approve of this thread please sign it or whatever so Valve understand what we want next. I really do think polished content would please people more than new, badly made content. You should not even be releasing content buggy...

tl;dr?
Fix all old / current things in game before releasing new content. TF2 was not released in this state, therefore should not be in this state now.

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Old 03-12-2011, 03:55 AM   #2
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You forgot the bugged Loch-n-Load animation.

Anyways, I'm all for this. They should also take a sharper look at some balance issues.
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Old 03-12-2011, 03:56 AM   #3
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Sticky ?auncher missing hand? WHat is that? I never heard of it.
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Old 03-12-2011, 03:57 AM   #4
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And along came a swarm of angry Hammer Legion Members crying, "BUT THE UPDATES ARE FREE!"

Edit: Also the iron sight for the Loch-n-load is not clipped into proper position.
http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/image...1st_person.png

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Old 03-12-2011, 03:58 AM   #5
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Sticky ?auncher missing hand? WHat is that? I never heard of it.
Demoman holds the Sticky Launcher with two hands in third person view, but with one hand in first person view.
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:01 AM   #6
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And along came a swarm of angry Hammer Legion Members crying, "BUT THE UPDATES ARE FREE!"
They are free, I love them. But valve do get money. -cough- mann co shop.

They should STOP adding new content, and polish the content they already have.
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:10 AM   #7
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/signed enough said.
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:14 AM   #8
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And along came a swarm of angry Hammer Legion Members crying, "BUT THE UPDATES ARE FREE!"

Edit: Also the iron sight for the Loch-n-load is not clipped into proper position.
http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/image...1st_person.png
Actually I consider myself a pretty loyal fan and support most of Valve's decisions, but I always welcome anything that improves the game even if it not adds anything new.
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:16 AM   #9
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Those are all just cosmetic issues, they don't have any influence on the gameplay. I'll even say they are not noticable during the fights! That's why I don't think Valve should focus on fixing them before fixing other bugs in the game.
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:16 AM   #10
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This is why I'm liking Bulletstorm more at this moment in time .
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:18 AM   #11
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Those are all just cosmetic issues, they don't have any influence on the gameplay. I'll even say they are not noticable during the fights! That's why I don't think Valve should focus on fixing them before fixing other bugs in the game.
You can notice them. Especially on the newer weapons.

I play on a huge monitor anyway so its even more noticeable.
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:20 AM   #12
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You can notice them. Especially on the newer weapons.
Nope.wav
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:24 AM   #13
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I whole-heartedly agree.

However fixing all the little glitches and bugs now doesn't give Valve any monetary reward for it. Unless they sold a "Fix Pack" in the Store.

But seriously, there's little incentive to fix them now. It seems the vast majority of players don't give a toss about polish, about consistency.

I'd like to see this happen, but after 3-4 years and something that has been present since release such as the Grenade Launcher hasn't been fixed yet probably never will be.
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:26 AM   #14
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I whole-heartedly agree.

However fixing all the little glitches and bugs now doesn't give Valve any monetary reward for it. Unless they sold a "Fix Pack" in the Store.

But seriously, there's little incentive to fix them now. It seems the vast majority of players don't give a toss about polish, about consistency.

I'd like to see this happen, but after 3-4 years and something that has been present since release such as the Grenade Launcher hasn't been fixed yet probably never will be.
Anyone e-mailed Robin about it? He never replies to me.

That isn't entirely true though, they fixed one of the old glitches after 2 years and everyone was amazed. Trying to think what it was now. But yeah I know what you mean, people have to stop liking the poorly made new stuff and actually want the game to be polished.

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Old 03-12-2011, 04:31 AM   #15
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And along came a swarm of angry Hammer Legion Members crying, "BUT THE UPDATES ARE FREE!"

Edit: Also the iron sight for the Loch-n-load is not clipped into proper position.
http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/image...1st_person.png
I always cringe when people use the "You disagree because you're a Hammer Legion Member." argument.

I can understand some people's issue with the visual problems, but for me it's no big deal.
Is it preventing me from setting you on fire? Nooo? Then whats the problem?
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