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Old 04-17-2011, 03:38 PM   #1
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Question VALVe Isn't Green

This is a thought I've had for a while, so I thought maybe I should just get it off my chest.

Ever since the TF2 idling-for-drops debacle, I've felt that VALVe isn't a very 'green' company. They actively encourage users to leave their PCs on all night and day for very little gain in personal satisfaction or game enjoyment.

Can anyone imagine how much electricity has been spent on PCs idling through the Potato Sack games in the past few days? It's pretty irresponsible.

And the irony is, not only is it a pretty irresponsible idea in the first place -- but it's not going to result in much of an earlier release anyway, so that mammoth effort and costly energy usage won't result in much enjoyment for the players either.

After finishing Portal 2, we all better take a break from our PCs (and Steam) for a week to make up for it.


***Edit: I didn't realise quite how many people this thread would jarate off. If you are one of those people, I suggest watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFeI7Vo3c4s and enjoying yourself for a bit.***

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Old 04-17-2011, 03:39 PM   #2
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This is a thought I've had for a while, so I thought maybe I should just get it off my chest.

Ever since the TF2 idling-for-drops debacle, I've felt that VALVe isn't a very 'green' company. They actively encourage users to leave their PCs on all night and day for very little gain in personal satisfaction or game enjoyment.

Can anyone imagine how much electricity has been spent on PCs idling through the Potato Sack games in the past few days? It's pretty irresponsible.

And the irony is, not only is it a pretty irresponsible idea in the first place -- but it's not going to result in much of an earlier release anyway, so that mammoth effort and costly energy usage won't result in much enjoyment for the players either.

After finishing Portal 2, we all better take a break from our PCs (and Steam) for a week to make up for it.
Well, you're wasting power right now by posting on forums. Maybe you should shut your pc off instead.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:40 PM   #3
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Ever since the TF2 idling-for-drops debacle, I've felt that VALVe isn't a very 'green' company. They actively encourage users to leave their PCs on all night and day for very little gain in personal satisfaction or game enjoyment.
Wrong already. Valve actively DIScouraged idling when people were doing it, and they have said leaving Potato games idle doesn't work. Get out.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:41 PM   #4
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Just think of the carbon footprint you left by writing this message, and then having other people read it. How do you sleep at night?
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:41 PM   #5
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Wrong already. Valve actively DIScouraged idling when people were doing it, and they have said leaving Potato games idle doesn't work. Get out.
OK. It doesn't work.

Are people doing it?
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:41 PM   #6
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So tired of this "green" trash these days, some guy made it up
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:42 PM   #7
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Well, you're wasting power right now by posting on forums. Maybe you should shut your pc off instead.
That's a weak counter-argument. I usually have my PC on at this time anyway. But lots (if not the majority) of people idling on games, especially overnight, would otherwise have their PCs off.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:43 PM   #8
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It doesn't matter how much paper I use, the same amount will still be produced. It doesn't matter if I turn my computer off every hour, or every 3 months. It's going to have very little to no effect on how much power the power suppliers here produce.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:43 PM   #9
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAMZjv1UZuU
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:43 PM   #10
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So tired of this "green" trash these days, some guy made it up
Amen to that
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:44 PM   #11
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OH NOES wasting valuable electricity!
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:44 PM   #12
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OP: that is pretty true.

Personally though I think the blame lies with your government. If you lived in a country with entirely green energy, there'd be no problem.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:44 PM   #13
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You can't blame valve for individuals idling with their pc when they said it didn't work. Valve played their parts, what do you want them to do? Barge in people's house and force them to close their pc? It's not their fault if people aren't listening.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:44 PM   #14
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This is a thought I've had for a while, so I thought maybe I should just get it off my chest.

Ever since the TF2 idling-for-drops debacle, I've felt that VALVe isn't a very 'green' company. They actively encourage users to leave their PCs on all night and day for very little gain in personal satisfaction or game enjoyment.

Can anyone imagine how much electricity has been spent on PCs idling through the Potato Sack games in the past few days? It's pretty irresponsible.

And the irony is, not only is it a pretty irresponsible idea in the first place -- but it's not going to result in much of an earlier release anyway, so that mammoth effort and costly energy usage won't result in much enjoyment for the players either.

After finishing Portal 2, we all better take a break from our PCs (and Steam) for a week to make up for it.
Uh VALVe? This is GLaDOS man...
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:45 PM   #15
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My computer stays on 24/7 anyway. That being said, I'm sure as hell not bothering with this circus act any longer, especially after a few emails I've had with Valve staff. There's only so much that can be said, they're being monitored, but taken in context it appears that the fans aren't the only ones upset by this mess.

edit: no I'm not going to explain further. they took a big enough risk already. I contacted them with an email that isn't associated with anything I've done through steam, and I'm not going to quote anything because that would come up in a quick search of their email systems.

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