Go Back   Steam Users' Forums > Steam Game Discussions > M - P > Portal 2

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-19-2011, 04:46 AM   #1
domdove
 
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Reputation: 53
Posts: 494
The identity of Chell. (MASSIVE spoilers ahead)

I can't find a decent thread about this, but if there is one, redirect me and I'll happily migrate conversation over to there.

Spoiler:
So, GLaDOS is Chell's mum...in a way?

In both games, there is a 'Bring Your Daughter To Work Day'. Seems like Valve really want us to be aware of this.

Early in Portal 2, GLaDOS mentions how she ran a search and found two Aperture employees with Chell's surname.

Cave Johnson had a woman at Aperture who he greatly admired, and wanted her to succeed him, and even become AI if necessary. Her name was Caroline.

GLaDOS discovers at the end that Caroline was inserted into her. She deletes Caroline, of course.



That's basically it. Now why aren't there more threads talking about the biggest twist of the game?!
domdove is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 04:48 AM   #2
Saikang
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Reputation: 9
Posts: 68
Because most people haven't finished the game yet. *flexes e-peen*

It's interesting if true, but they're both dead, so whatever.
Saikang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 04:49 AM   #3
domdove
 
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Reputation: 53
Posts: 494
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saikang View Post
Because most people haven't finished the game yet. *flexes e-peen*

It's interesting if true, but they're both dead, so whatever.
I know, I know. But still
domdove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 04:54 AM   #4
SirPorkchop
 
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Reputation: 233
Posts: 891
I never got that feeling at all.
She mentioned parents to take jabs at Chell.

Caroline is who Glados was, from what I understand.
SirPorkchop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 04:57 AM   #5
mediarulesworld
 
 
 
Guest
Posts: n/a
I thought the big twist at the end was that

Spoiler:
Caroline WAS GLaDOS. After Cave died, Caroline became the boss and took over Aperture. I presume that after that she was made into GLaDOS, an AI, just like Cave wanted before he died. Of course, Cave died before the technology was discovered.


That was my take on it, anyway.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 04:57 AM   #6
domdove
 
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Reputation: 53
Posts: 494
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirPorkchop View Post
I never got that feeling at all.
She mentioned parents to take jabs at Chell.

Caroline is who Glados was, from what I understand.
But coupled with the bit about a male and a female employee both having her surname...

I just feel as though Valve are shouting it at us - I mean, who even cares if some lover of the boss is in GLaDOS? That sort of twist doesn't feel big enough, if you get me.

I just feel as though the signs really are there.
domdove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 04:57 AM   #7
Tidenburg
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Reputation: 194
Posts: 968
Caroline WAS a part of GLaDOS, not just another node. She just wasn't aware she was there.

Caroline isn't Chell's mother, either. If you listened, she clearly says that Chell WAS adopted (in the test chamber where Wheatley tries to mock Chell) and in another she admits that she completely lied about Chell's parents being there.


Quote:
Originally Posted by domdove View Post
But coupled with the bit about a male and a female employee both having her surname...
Read the comics. GLaDOS doesn't even KNOW Chell's last name, it's redacted on the subject list. It's entirely made up.
Tidenburg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 04:58 AM   #8
domdove
 
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Reputation: 53
Posts: 494
Quote:
Originally Posted by mediarulesworld View Post
I thought the big twist at the end was that

Spoiler:
Caroline WAS GLaDOS. After Cave died, Caroline became the boss and took over Aperture. I presume that after that she was made into GLaDOS, an AI, just like Cave wanted before he died. Of course, Cave died before the technology was discovered.


That was my take on it, anyway.
Again, you're right, but so what? That's the on-the-surface twist sure, but it means very little. Couple it with the other hints, and you have the REAL twist.
domdove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 04:59 AM   #9
mastergiux
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Reputation: 9
Posts: 42
Spoiler:
Snape kills Chell
mastergiux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 05:00 AM   #10
SirPorkchop
 
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Reputation: 233
Posts: 891
Quote:
Originally Posted by domdove View Post
But coupled with the bit about a male and a female employee both having her surname...

I just feel as though Valve are shouting it at us - I mean, who even cares if some lover of the boss is in GLaDOS? That sort of twist doesn't feel big enough, if you get me.

I just feel as though the signs really are there.
Well of course two employees would have the same surname. It WAS bring your daughter to work day.

No one said that Caroline was Cave's lover. It was never even implied. He was Cave's assistant. A lot of bosses tend to get close to their assistants if they like them enough, regardless of being male or female. He had trust in her, she enjoyed her job, and she did what she was told. As he said, she was married, married to science.

There was no implications, or hints to Glados/Caroline being Chell's mother.
SirPorkchop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 05:01 AM   #11
NeoRokuen
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Reputation: 4
Posts: 190
What hints? I also didn't get that feeling at all. Plus...I don't think I would like that kind of twist. Finding out the history behind GLaDOS was amazing though.
NeoRokuen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 05:07 AM   #12
SandyGunfox
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Reputation: 12
Posts: 83
GLaDOS explicitly said she was lying about the two employees having Chell's surname. Remember? The scene where the tube delivery system drops confetti as she announces she was just jerking you around?

It made me laugh, I remember it.

A different theory is that Chell is homeless. That's why she has no identity on record. It fits in with some of Cave's speech during that chapter as well. Considering Aperture Science seems to have pretty well workable stasis/hibernation technology, there really is no telling when Chell got stuck with Aperture anyway.
SandyGunfox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 05:08 AM   #13
mediarulesworld
 
 
 
Guest
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tidenburg View Post
Caroline WAS a part of GLaDOS, not just another node. She just wasn't aware she was there.

Caroline isn't Chell's mother, either. If you listened, she clearly says that Chell WAS adopted (in the test chamber where Wheatley tries to mock Chell) and in another she admits that she completely lied about Chell's parents being there.




Read the comics. GLaDOS doesn't even KNOW Chell's last name, it's redacted on the subject list. It's entirely made up.
*cough* Spoiler tags *cough*
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 05:09 AM   #14
SirPorkchop
 
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Reputation: 233
Posts: 891
Quote:
Originally Posted by mediarulesworld View Post
*cough* Spoiler tags *cough*
*cough* Read thread title *cough*
SirPorkchop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 05:10 AM   #15
mediarulesworld
 
 
 
Guest
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by domdove View Post
Again, you're right, but so what? That's the on-the-surface twist sure, but it means very little. Couple it with the other hints, and you have the REAL twist.
I honestly did NOT get any hints about Caroline being Chell's mother.

Spoiler:
I thought that Chell was one of the scientist's daughters (ie Bring Your Daughter to Work Day), but I never got the feeling that Caroline was her mother. Caroline was just Cave's assistant. Cave trusted her immensly, which is why he left her Aperture.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Steam Users' Forums > Steam Game Discussions > M - P > Portal 2


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Site Content Copyright Valve Corporation 1998-2012, All Rights Reserved.