Replay - QuickTime

jonl · 05-06-2011, 05:07 PM

Please post here for questions and comments related specifically to QuickTime.

JetsamXYZ · 05-06-2011, 05:26 PM

Is there any chance that the replayer will be refitted to accept media players *other* than Quicktime?

bootymonsta · 05-06-2011, 05:33 PM

seconded, the quicktime&itunes eula is not attractive.

Cola! · 05-06-2011, 05:38 PM

i think, you can still use VLC
http://www.videolan.org/

it's free software

killing lane · 05-06-2011, 05:41 PM

I would prefer to never install quick time on my computer. Cant you guys use x264 or something open source and less... apple and stupid.

MattP · 05-06-2011, 06:14 PM

We chose Quicktime in order to support both PC's and Mac users equally, and to store the replay movies in a file format that would be playable by the largest number of people and video player programs out there, as well as being compatible with YouTube, etc.

For PC users who don't want to go through Apple's install process, please note that Quicktime Alternative works for TF replays, and can be configured to install only the codecs needed to play and create Quicktime movie files.

That said, we are looking into providing support for additional video containers and video codecs in the future. Obviously I can't promise anything concrete, but I think our track record of ongoing support for TF speaks for itself.

Remember, we just released the Replay feature *one day* ago.

We're going to watch closely and listen to you for problems to fix and ideas for future development.

breaddit · 05-06-2011, 06:28 PM

I don't like quicktime. How about allow VLC?

Psycho345 · 05-06-2011, 06:31 PM

I have installed the latest QuickTime and the game still says I need to install it.

Peewi · 05-06-2011, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho345

I have installed the latest QuickTime and the game still says I need to install it.

Did you try rebooting like it tells you to?

Timerider42 · 05-06-2011, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killing lane

I would prefer to never install quick time on my computer. Cant you guys use x264 or something open source and less... apple and stupid.

Like this comment?
Quicktime uses x264. You don't need to install iTunes with it. Using something like VLC that is changed and updated frequently could end up breaking, plus versions can be inconsistent across platforms.
You really need something better to complain about.

killing lane · 05-06-2011, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timerider42

Like this comment?
Quicktime uses x264. You don't need to install iTunes with it. Using something like VLC that is changed and updated frequently could end up breaking, plus versions can be inconsistent across platforms.
You really need something better to complain about.

Don't quote me unless you know what your talking about, I am not talking about h.264, x264 is a whole different encoder that is not stupid, unlike quicktime.

Barrakketh · 05-06-2011, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattP

We chose Quicktime in order to support both PC's and Mac users equally, and to store the replay movies in a file format that would be playable by the largest number of people and video player programs out there, as well as being compatible with YouTube, etc.

[...]

That said, we are looking into providing support for additional video containers and video codecs in the future. Obviously I can't promise anything concrete, but I think our track record of ongoing support for TF speaks for itself.

You could've used x264 (you can get a commercial license for the encoder, would still need a patent license from MPEGLA if Valve doesn't already have one) with MP4 and/or Matroska for a container.

Of course, using QuickTime was probably cheaper

Ath · 05-06-2011, 07:45 PM

If you're using QuickTime to transcode, wouldn't an open-source (and compact) alternative like ffmpeg be superior?

killing lane · 05-06-2011, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrakketh

You could've used x264 (you can get a commercial license for the encoder, would still need a patent license from MPEGLA if Valve doesn't already have one) with MP4 and/or Matroska for a container.

Of course, using QuickTime was probably cheaper

Cheaper yes, but then they would have been able to build it into tf2 itself and have no dependencies. It would probably also render faster, unless there is some other bottleneck.

And now that I think of it, this is the second time valve has had a good idea, and come up short in some dumb way, steam photos, lack of png, and now this, unless I'm missing an important element.

kara_bulut · 05-06-2011, 09:08 PM

This is PC we are talking about.
Surely there are tons of free media players better than Quicktime.

For instance you can check out MV2Player. It doesn't eat system resources
like Quicktime does and it doesn't try to spy on me and accsess the internet
without asking me.

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05-06-2011, 05:26 PM	#2
JetsamXYZ Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 277 Posts: 2,313	Is there any chance that the replayer will be refitted to accept media players other than Quicktime?

05-06-2011, 05:33 PM	#3
bootymonsta Join Date: Jul 2008 Reputation: 32 Posts: 368	seconded, the quicktime&itunes eula is not attractive.

05-06-2011, 05:38 PM	#4
Cola! Join Date: Jul 2010 Reputation: 69 Posts: 123	i think, you can still use VLC http://www.videolan.org/ it's free software

05-06-2011, 05:41 PM	#5
killing lane Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Reputation: 9 Posts: 248	I would prefer to never install quick time on my computer. Cant you guys use x264 or something open source and less... apple and stupid.

05-06-2011, 06:14 PM	#6
MattP Valve Join Date: Mar 2011 Reputation: 39 Posts: 10	We chose Quicktime in order to support both PC's and Mac users equally, and to store the replay movies in a file format that would be playable by the largest number of people and video player programs out there, as well as being compatible with YouTube, etc. For PC users who don't want to go through Apple's install process, please note that Quicktime Alternative works for TF replays, and can be configured to install only the codecs needed to play and create Quicktime movie files. That said, we are looking into providing support for additional video containers and video codecs in the future. Obviously I can't promise anything concrete, but I think our track record of ongoing support for TF speaks for itself. Remember, we just released the Replay feature one day ago. We're going to watch closely and listen to you for problems to fix and ideas for future development.

05-06-2011, 06:28 PM	#7
breaddit Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Reputation: 412 Posts: 728	I don't like quicktime. How about allow VLC?

05-06-2011, 06:31 PM	#8
Psycho345 Join Date: Jan 2011 Reputation: 2 Posts: 18	I have installed the latest QuickTime and the game still says I need to install it.

05-06-2011, 07:45 PM	#13
Ath Join Date: Nov 2007 Reputation: 518 Posts: 1,028	If you're using QuickTime to transcode, wouldn't an open-source (and compact) alternative like ffmpeg be superior?

05-06-2011, 09:08 PM	#15
kara_bulut Join Date: May 2008 Reputation: 707 Posts: 7,051	This is PC we are talking about. Surely there are tons of free media players better than Quicktime. For instance you can check out MV2Player. It doesn't eat system resources like Quicktime does and it doesn't try to spy on me and accsess the internet without asking me.