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Old 05-28-2011, 06:48 PM   #1
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Gardening: Non-Chemical Alternatives to Sevin dust ?

Anyone know of anything that works almost as good as Sevin dust for:

Japanese Beatles, Squash bugs ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squash_bug ) , grass hoppers , and cutworms ?

I heard of Tabbaco Dust, but I'm assuming it wont actually do much?
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:05 PM   #2
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Anyone know of anything that works almost as good as Sevin dust for:

Japanese Beatles, Squash bugs ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squash_bug ) , grass hoppers , and cutworms ?

I heard of Tabbaco Dust, but I'm assuming it wont actually do much?
First of all, "non-chemical alternatives" - there's no such thing. All substances are chemicals or made from them.

But if you're looking for a more 'natural' alternative to manmade nerve agent insecticides - try Pyrethrins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrethroid

Still "chemicals" - but they are less toxic to people/the environment than agents like Sevin.

Tobacco dust contains Nicotine, a very toxic substance when concentrated. Not recommended unless you know exactly what you are doing.
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Old 05-29-2011, 12:00 AM   #3
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First of all, "non-chemical alternatives" - there's no such thing. All substances are chemicals or made from them.

But if you're looking for a more 'natural' alternative to manmade nerve agent insecticides - try Pyrethrins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrethroid

Still "chemicals" - but they are less toxic to people/the environment than agents like Sevin.

Tobacco dust contains Nicotine, a very toxic substance when concentrated. Not recommended unless you know exactly what you are doing.
Sounds like I might as well stick to work works, sevin.
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Old 05-29-2011, 12:11 AM   #4
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I eat them.

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Actually, I can find cutworms quite easily. And they look rather edible. Grasshoppers are also edible. I'm not so sure about picking japanese beetle parts out of my teeth, though.
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Old 05-29-2011, 12:22 AM   #5
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I eat them.

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Actually, I can find cutworms quite easily. And they look rather edible. Grasshoppers are also edible. I'm not so sure about picking japanese beetle parts out of my teeth, though.
There's gazillions of little baby grasshoppers out there right now. Actually they are about "mid sized" now. Last month they was tiny, now they are about 2-3cms long.
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:06 AM   #6
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Pyrethrins as joeylawn said. It's the most well known "natural" one and does do an OK job on some insects. Interplant marigolds they do a fair job of chasing off the bad guys.

Bayer has some new poison I saw advertised this year once, thats supposed to be "natural". I don't know if it's "safe" for food cops though.

I generally get enough lady bugs to handle most everything but have some real poison just in case. I haven't had to use it in years though. I will use it if needed as my food still ends up with less insecticides in it than store bought food has but I still avoid it's use like the plague unless absolutely necessary.
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:20 AM   #7
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First of all, "non-chemical alternatives" - there's no such thing. All substances are chemicals or made from them.
He could set them on fire with lasers! That's a non-chemical alternative.

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Old 05-29-2011, 06:26 AM   #8
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No chemicals rule out a lot of stuff, to be a definition national socialist.

1) Nothing that can be defined as liquid, solid, gaseous or plasma or anything inbetween.
2) Thats it. But thats a large it.
3) You are limited to using energy. This means lasers or magnifying glasses and sun.
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:34 AM   #9
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Pyrethrins...they're made from the cruched flowers of the crysanth..emum plants...Man I miss Billy the Exterminator
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:17 AM   #10
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After I posted last night, I found a book that mentions alternative pest control methods:

Tobacco Water:

Steep 1 large handful of tobacco in 4 quarts of warm water for 24 Hours, dilute and spray.
CAUTION: Handle with care, this solution is very toxic to humans and pets!

Hot Pepper Solution:

Blend 2 or 3 very hot peppers (hanabero is a very hot one) 1/2 onion and 1 clove of garlic in water, boil, let steep for 2 days, strain - use juice as spray.

Garlic Solution:

Combine 2 tablespoons Garlic Juice (not powder), 1 tablespoon rubbing alcohol, and 1 oz Diotomaceous Earth in 4 quarts of water. Use as spray.

Soap Solution:

Mix 2 tablespoons pure liquid soap (not detergent) in 1 qt water or 1 1/2 to 2 oz dry soap in 1 qt water.
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:20 AM   #11
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Have you tried six dust or maybe eight dust?
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:51 AM   #12
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No chemicals rule out a lot of stuff, to be a definition national socialist.

1) Nothing that can be defined as liquid, solid, gaseous or plasma or anything inbetween.
2) Thats it. But thats a large it.
3) You are limited to using energy. This means lasers or magnifying glasses and sun.
gardening ? (Neo-National Socialist gardening)

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Old 05-29-2011, 08:56 AM   #13
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Avoid tobacco products around tomato and potato plants. Some type of virus can be transferd if I'm remembering correctly. People that smoke should avoid touching the mater and tater plants without gloves.
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Avoid tobacco products around tomato and potato plants. Some type of virus can be transferd if I'm remembering correctly.
There goes using tabbaco then I have a lot of tomatoes. My cayenne's aren't hot yet, they just started producing last week so I'd have to go find Habenros or scotch bonnets in the stores.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:05 AM   #15
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There goes using tabbaco then I have a lot of tomatoes. My cayenne's aren't hot yet, they just started producing last week so I'd have to go find Habenros or scotch bonnets in the stores.
Huuuuuuh???
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