Go Back   Steam Users' Forums > Steam Discussions > Hardware and Operating Systems

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-27-2011, 08:39 AM   #1
alberts00
 
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Reputation: 90
Posts: 143
Unhappy Upgrading old PC problem.

I have a pretty old PC, while I'm away and it had Radeon 9200se, which wasn't enough for me. I replaced it with GeForce 5500FX. When I first booted it up the video cards output wasn't working, tried the integrated video card VGA port and it worked. When I came into Windows. I saw that the computer is using integrated card and not that card which I installed (5500FX).
Things what I've tried:
There's no option in bios to disable on board graphics.
Clearing CMOS.
Putting back in the old 9200SE - Didn't work...
PC Specs:
Before: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1552958
Now: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1926592
Motherboard model: m925g 9.1b

I have been trying to fix this problem for 5 hours.

Guy who solves problem gets 5$ on PayPal.

Last edited by alberts00: 07-27-2011 at 08:56 AM.
alberts00 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 09:04 AM   #2
rotNdude
 
rotNdude's Avatar
 
Volunteer Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Reputation: 9248
Posts: 45,552
You need to load the nVidia drivers to get that 5500FX card to work in windows.
rotNdude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 09:05 AM   #3
caveman26
 
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Reputation: 1817
Posts: 4,226
in the bios there should be an option for which display device to use first select agp/pci-e as the first one
caveman26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 09:06 AM   #4
alberts00
 
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Reputation: 90
Posts: 143
But the BIOS screen from the video cards output isn't working tho.
And Caveman there's an option to select PCI or AGP, I have selected it to AGP, but it still uses onboard video.
Edit1: Tried what rotNdude said, setup said that I don't have supported hardware.
The only thing what windows is detecting is integrated graphics, nothing else.

Last edited by alberts00: 07-27-2011 at 09:12 AM.
alberts00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 09:24 AM   #5
rotNdude
 
rotNdude's Avatar
 
Volunteer Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Reputation: 9248
Posts: 45,552
You probably aren't loading the correct drivers for such an old card.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_175.19_whql.html

What OS are you running?
rotNdude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 09:29 AM   #6
alberts00
 
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Reputation: 90
Posts: 143
No, I have correct drivers 100%, the same as you linked, I am running Windows xp x86.
The thing is the MOTHERBOARD isn't letting discrete gpu to work.
I don't think that there's something wrong with my windows.
When the system is booting up I must use the VGA output from Motherboards I/O, and not from video card, because it just doesn't work.
What I'm thinking now is I must update BIOS, but I can't find a newer bios.
alberts00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 09:36 AM   #7
rotNdude
 
rotNdude's Avatar
 
Volunteer Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Reputation: 9248
Posts: 45,552
Did you have to do anything in the BIOS to get the 9200 card to work properly? If not, then maybe the 5500 card is dead.
rotNdude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 09:44 AM   #8
alberts00
 
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Reputation: 90
Posts: 143
I didn't put in the 9200se , so I don't know. I tried putting the 9200se back in and it didn't work, could be that I have broken the agp slot? :'(
alberts00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 09:46 AM   #9
WillHoot
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Reputation: 2
Posts: 18
that happened randomly with my pc one time. what happened was that there was an issue with the pci express slot. i had to replace my motherboard. but if it happened just after installing a new card it may be drivers or you messed something up when you were working in there.
WillHoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 04:24 PM   #10
Gentle
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Reputation: 552
Posts: 5,907
I know it sounds stupid to ask this...

But are you certain you have/had AGP video cards and not PCI ones?

Both the 9200se and the 5500FX were available as AGP and PCI cards.

Also, consider this... Even though the 5500FX is listed as a "DirectX 9" card... The performance of it in DirectX 9 will be very bad, this was a well-known design limitation of the FX series cards.

The difference between your 9200se and the 5500FX performance wise overall... Not much really.

Gentle

Last edited by Gentle: 07-27-2011 at 04:34 PM.
Gentle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 04:58 PM   #11
pizzahut
 
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Reputation: 802
Posts: 4,401
Perhaps the gfx card isn't fully inserted, try pressing on each end of the gfx card.
pizzahut is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2011, 01:28 AM   #12
alberts00
 
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Reputation: 90
Posts: 143
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gentle View Post
I know it sounds stupid to ask this...

But are you certain you have/had AGP video cards and not PCI ones?

Both the 9200se and the 5500FX were available as AGP and PCI cards.

Also, consider this... Even though the 5500FX is listed as a "DirectX 9" card... The performance of it in DirectX 9 will be very bad, this was a well-known design limitation of the FX series cards.

The difference between your 9200se and the 5500FX performance wise overall... Not much really.

Gentle
The 9200SE only has 64MB of VRAM, at resoulutions which I play it's a huge bottleneck and I have 5500FX 128Bit version, not the 64.
I am 100% both cards are AGP, cause there is a paper thingy, where it says AGP/128bit/256MB. And the pins are the same as 9200SE.

Will try to do what pizzahut said.

Edit1: Tried what pizzahut said, didn't work.

Last edited by alberts00: 07-28-2011 at 01:55 AM.
alberts00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2011, 03:12 AM   #13
Gentle
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Reputation: 552
Posts: 5,907
Quote:
Originally Posted by alberts00 View Post
The 9200SE only has 64MB of VRAM, at resoulutions which I play it's a huge bottleneck and I have 5500FX 128Bit version, not the 64.
I am 100% both cards are AGP, cause there is a paper thingy, where it says AGP/128bit/256MB. And the pins are the same as 9200SE.

Will try to do what pizzahut said.

Edit1: Tried what pizzahut said, didn't work.
Could it be that you actually do have PCI versions?

In your BIOS, try switching it to PCI...

If you don't have PCI, it just won't boot and you can go back to the BIOS to switch it back...

Gentle
Gentle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2011, 03:23 AM   #14
alberts00
 
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Reputation: 90
Posts: 143
Guys, thanks for your help, I needed to push the videocard more, after I pushed the 5500FX I got the video card problem BIOS code, tried 9200SE and pushed it very hard, tried starting windows from the 9200SE VGA port and it worked! Also after reading some topics about my motherboard, guys were saying that it wont support AGP x8.
They both are AGP (At least I think so), but now I started windows with the PCI setting in BIOS, strange.
Going to take a picture of card after I install display drivers.

Rep+ to everyone who answered.
Here's a picture of the card
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4820261/Photos/IMAG0106.jpg

Last edited by alberts00: 07-28-2011 at 03:42 AM.
alberts00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2011, 03:40 AM   #15
borg_7_of_9
 
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Reputation: 2624
Posts: 12,702
Quote:
Originally Posted by alberts00 View Post
Guys, thanks for your help, I needed to push the videocard more, after I pushed the 5500FX I got the video card problem BIOS code, tried 9200SE and pushed it very hard, tried starting windows from the 9200SE VGA port and it worked! Also after reading some topics about my motherboard, guys were saying that it wont support AGP x8.
They both are AGP (At least I think so), but now I started windows with the PCI setting in BIOS, strange.
Going to take a picture of card after I install display drivers.

Rep+ to everyone who answered.
If the card is ago the BIOS will still load it the setting in BIOS is only a check PC I or agp first setting to speed up boot times it won't disable ether port try again on agp if you think its an agp card
borg_7_of_9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Steam Users' Forums > Steam Discussions > Hardware and Operating Systems


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Site Content Copyright Valve Corporation 1998-2012, All Rights Reserved.