Birthday - Save Longterm

Zaxxon · 09-04-2011, 03:25 PM

My last thread was locked, even though

A) it wasn't in the "Already Requested" Sticky and B) http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...d.php?t=480248 says:
"We don't care if they are dumb, we don't care if they have been posted before, we don't care if you don't like it.

If you can't be constructive with your criticism - then don't post."

The point is that I'd like the selection saved. I wouldn't even mind if it were per session.

The ESRB's EWC requirement is that:
A)Display manual Age-Gate for M/AO titles.
B) Save the underage selection to deny access (so they can't just put that they are older).

The requirements do NOT disallow saving an overage selection per session.

I would like to suggest that we do. So I guess it could at least be Short-Term (though most of us leave Steam open Long-term).

TheDaFox · 09-04-2011, 03:38 PM

This is requested basically daily.

Zaxxon · 09-04-2011, 03:39 PM

So what? It is probably requested so much because people want it. At least that's what logic would lead me to believe.

max2 · 09-04-2011, 03:47 PM

It already is possible and has been for a long time get Greasemonkey then the userscript for it.

Matt · 09-04-2011, 04:14 PM

You and 100 other threads want DOB saved. They aren't going to do this. Word is they have to ask each time, according to the lawyers.

JupiterSWarrior · 09-04-2011, 05:11 PM

I agree that the Age-Gate is annoying, however...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaxxon

The ESRB's EWC requirement is that:
A)Display manual Age-Gate for M/AO titles.
B) Save the underage selection to deny access (so they can't just put that they are older).

The requirements do NOT disallow saving an overage selection per session.

Look at point A. This means that a user must enter his/her date of birth to proceed. This means that they (Valve) can't simply save the date of birth outside of cookies. Once the cookies expire, a user must enter his/her date of birth at the Age-Gate in order to proceed.

This is why Valve won't change anything.

Zaxxon · 09-04-2011, 06:40 PM

Wait, wait lawyers? What does this have to do with lawyers? Do you people think this is some sort of US Codified Law? Unless there some state statutes or something, the EWC is just a consortium and Steam/Valve, along with everyone else in the industry adheres to the same standards as everyone else in the EWC.

The result of non-compliance? You aren't on the EWC anymore. BUT, if Steam/Valve are on the EWC, then why not get clarification. They are after all part of the governing body that decides.

If Valve is rolling over just because they don't care, then that's even more reason why people should complain. If they do care but they aren't keeping us informed, then they deserve the "hundreds" of posts complaining.

Either way, this is a valid complaint and is in no way about asking someone to break any laws (I'm no lawyer, so I'm not aware of all state laws).

Perfectionist · 09-04-2011, 07:30 PM

What i said in another thread was couldn't Valve update the rules to make us responsible of our client. Surely then we are the only one liable when it said so when accepting to use steam. Im not a solicitor either.

pixelante15 · 09-04-2011, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaxxon

Wait, wait lawyers? What does this have to do with lawyers? Do you people think this is some sort of US Codified Law? Unless there some state statutes or something, the EWC is just a consortium and Steam/Valve, along with everyone else in the industry adheres to the same standards as everyone else in the EWC.

The result of non-compliance? You aren't on the EWC anymore. BUT, if Steam/Valve are on the EWC, then why not get clarification. They are after all part of the governing body that decides.

If Valve is rolling over just because they don't care, then that's even more reason why people should complain. If they do care but they aren't keeping us informed, then they deserve the "hundreds" of posts complaining.

Either way, this is a valid complaint and is in no way about asking someone to break any laws (I'm no lawyer, so I'm not aware of all state laws).

There is no law regarding sale of M games to minors, no.

The reason everyone mentioned lawyers is because Valve blamed it on them.
I would assume their legal team does more than just ensure compliance with federal/state laws and drawing up licensing contracts. They probably help interpret and maintain compliance with organizations like the ESRB.

This is pure conjecture of course, but it makes sense to me.

Zaxxon · 11-19-2011, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt

You and 100 other threads want DOB saved. They aren't going to do this. Word is they have to ask each time, according to the lawyers.

I know I'm bumping an old thread, however I am glad that Steam now seems to save my January 1st, 1900 birthday! This saves me a lot of trouble now.

Thank you Valve and the Steam Team!

09-04-2011, 03:25 PM	#1
Zaxxon Join Date: Sep 2010 Reputation: 8 Posts: 156	Birthday - Save Longterm My last thread was locked, even though A) it wasn't in the "Already Requested" Sticky and B) http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...d.php?t=480248 says: "We don't care if they are dumb, we don't care if they have been posted before, we don't care if you don't like it. If you can't be constructive with your criticism - then don't post." The point is that I'd like the selection saved. I wouldn't even mind if it were per session. The ESRB's EWC requirement is that: A)Display manual Age-Gate for M/AO titles. B) Save the underage selection to deny access (so they can't just put that they are older). The requirements do NOT disallow saving an overage selection per session. I would like to suggest that we do. So I guess it could at least be Short-Term (though most of us leave Steam open Long-term). Last edited by Zaxxon: 09-04-2011 at 03:29 PM.

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09-04-2011, 03:38 PM	#2
TheDaFox Join Date: Jun 2008 Reputation: 17 Posts: 409	This is requested basically daily.

09-04-2011, 03:39 PM	#3
Zaxxon Join Date: Sep 2010 Reputation: 8 Posts: 156	So what? It is probably requested so much because people want it. At least that's what logic would lead me to believe.

09-04-2011, 03:47 PM	#4
max2 Join Date: Nov 2008 Reputation: 101 Posts: 2,417	It already is possible and has been for a long time get Greasemonkey then the userscript for it.

09-04-2011, 06:40 PM	#7
Zaxxon Join Date: Sep 2010 Reputation: 8 Posts: 156	Wait, wait lawyers? What does this have to do with lawyers? Do you people think this is some sort of US Codified Law? Unless there some state statutes or something, the EWC is just a consortium and Steam/Valve, along with everyone else in the industry adheres to the same standards as everyone else in the EWC. The result of non-compliance? You aren't on the EWC anymore. BUT, if Steam/Valve are on the EWC, then why not get clarification. They are after all part of the governing body that decides. If Valve is rolling over just because they don't care, then that's even more reason why people should complain. If they do care but they aren't keeping us informed, then they deserve the "hundreds" of posts complaining. Either way, this is a valid complaint and is in no way about asking someone to break any laws (I'm no lawyer, so I'm not aware of all state laws).

09-04-2011, 07:30 PM	#8
Perfectionist Join Date: Sep 2008 Reputation: 53 Posts: 1,204	What i said in another thread was couldn't Valve update the rules to make us responsible of our client. Surely then we are the only one liable when it said so when accepting to use steam. Im not a solicitor either.