PAYDAY - Bugs, Feedback, Tweaks and Patch Ideas?

wdcr0ck · 10-20-2011, 11:33 AM

Howdy Forum,

Now that we have the game and can kick it around a bit, it's time to document the bugs we find, tweaks we need, and stuff that we think Overkill should patch.

Post your ideas to the thread, please, and I'll add them here.

Bug, Tweaks, and Patch Requests

FIXEDLack of Advanced Video Settings - FSAA/CSAA/vsync/details
FIXEDAbility to mute another player
Xbox360 gamepad support
FIXED - logitech rumble pad2 issues, keyboard slimstar 320 issues
Ammo and Doctor bags on Player Models.
Mouse look/aim down sight sensitivity is 1:1
FIXEDoption to toggle crouch
game change my refreshrate to 59Hz ?
FIXED - Issues with G-13 - workaround is to disconnect G13 and reboot PC. One user also reported disconnecting G13 and killing any G13-related apps then game would start.
Mouse lag -- reported as "lurchy despite different sensitivity settings". Possibly related to mouse smoothing
FIXED - Random crashes to desktop -- possibly related to gamepad/joysticks being connected to the PC. Temp fix is to disconnect them and restart PC.
FIXEDNeed a pause button -- press ESC should pause the game.
FIXED - PS3 prompt found in game --
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/61...7B70D4141C918/
FIXEDNot all keys can be mapped/remapped - User wants to replace WASD with the arrow keys but was unable remap the left/right arrow. They are mapped to change weapons. Once the change weapons keys are mapped to something else, like mousewheel, user can map left/right movement to left/right arrow keys.
FIXEDUnable to start game using Steam - Have to navigate to game folder and launch EXE directly. Might also require Administrator privileges. Overkill is aware of the issue.
FIXEDGame needs an "easy" setting - some users are finding the normal difficulty level a bit challenging.
FIXEDUnable to start game. Gets to "loading" then crashes to desktop
FIXEDAI refuses to escape from the first bank. They stay in the bank shooting at police.
Unable to remap ENTER key - Known issue. From Overkill, "We are looking into this guys, but for now you cannot remap ENTER, TAB, ESC and probably some other ones, we will keep you updated"
Can we remap / or \ keys?
What is the default FOV? Can it be changed?
No ability to lean or peek around corners?
FIXED ( DROP IN ) Request for dedicated server support - Overkill is reported to be working on something even better than dedicated server support. No other details available right now.
FIXEDRequest for iron sight toggle key - need the ability to toggle between normal and iron sight.
Is there a console in the game we can access to manually change game settings?
Can we have a votekick option for multiplayer?
Request ability to see actual Player names/nicks in MP instead of just game nicknames
FIXEDCan we join games already in session?
FIXEDset a minimum Reputation cap.
FIXEDRequest for an option to "hold to crouch" v/s "toggle to crouch"
BUG: In the bank heist, after placing the drill your gun clips through the drills interface.
When being tazed, the gun never stops firing/fires over ammo capacity.[/B]
BUG: When coming out of being tazed, the gun has the same amount of bullets as it did when you were first shocked (fairly sure that isn't intentional, Overkill staff can confirm or deny this).

Patch Info

Overkill released their first patch on 10/21. Details:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2191958

Demo availability

So far, we've only seen a demo for PS3. Nothing about a PC demo yet.

Multi-Monitor/Eyefinity Support?

PAYDAY does not support multi-monitors or Eyefinity. However, at least two people have run PAYDAY with multiple monitors and say it works great. So, officially unsupported but should work.

Sound Issues

1) Ventrilo/teamspeak and volume - Some background about the issue and a fix:

First off the fact that ventrilo/teamspeak are being lowered in volume when running the game isn't a problem with the game itself, it's a feature of windows called 'ducking'. What ducking does is lower the volume of things when you're in communication based programs (because the game keeps the mic open all the time, ducking kicks in and lowers the volume of everything else). I can only speak for Windows 7 here, but if you right click on the little speaker icon next to the clock (bottom right corner on your desktop) you can choose 'playback devices' and then go to the 'communications' tab and set it to 'do nothing'. This will disable ducking and stop the game lowering the volume of other programs.

Courtesy of WskOsc

2) Lack of push-to-talk capability -- press "T" to chat? What else is needed?

What DLC is planned?

From Overkill:

Hi our Level and Art team is working hard on the DLC since a while now:
Wihtout giving the exact content away here is short yes no to your question:

Will DLC include:
-More heists and levels? YES
-More equipment? YES
-More Characters/Skins YES
-More Skill Trees/Skills YES
-Estimated price range? Not decided yet.

Schmeng · 10-20-2011, 11:35 AM

the mouse lag

i don't know if it's from forcing fps or it's some v-sync thing ; but i've tried with different sensitivity settings and it remains lurchy as hell - makes the game and aiming unplayable.

GotlVlilk · 10-20-2011, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmeng

the mouse lag

i don't know if it's from forcing fps or it's some v-sync thing ; but i've tried with different sensitivity settings and it remains lurchy as hell - makes the game and aiming unplayable.

Same problem here . . . if it was not for that everything would be fine. I think they got v-sync enabled and other stuff like shadows on high which usually makes me lag the same way I am now.

MattGo74 · 10-20-2011, 11:43 AM

Yeah the mouse control sucks.

maneaterhp · 10-20-2011, 11:44 AM

How about in single player when you press escape it pauses the game.

MattGo74 · 10-20-2011, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maneaterhp

How about in single player when you press escape it pauses the game.

Yeah, that too. Sometimes you have to go to the bathroom, answer the phone, etc.

wdcr0ck · 10-20-2011, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maneaterhp

How about in single player when you press escape it pauses the game.

Misunderstood your post. Sorry. Adding your request now.

MattGo74 · 10-20-2011, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdcr0ck

That's a feature, no? Would you want the pause feature mapped to a different key? Or no pause at all?

He's saying there IS no pause at all.

maneaterhp · 10-20-2011, 11:49 AM

On every game when you press escape to go to a menu unless its multiplayer it pauses it. Its a standard. Just shows this is a quickly botched together port...

wdcr0ck · 10-20-2011, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattGo74

He's saying there IS no pause at all.

Yeah. Thanks for clarifying it. I've got it now. Didn't even realize ESC wasn't mapped to pause. Game went too fast for me to try it. lol. Added it to the list.

maneaterhp · 10-20-2011, 11:53 AM

in single player*

10-20-2011, 11:55 AM

That's a PS3 button prompt.

wdcr0ck · 10-20-2011, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squidbot

That's a PS3 button prompt.

Thank you. Fixed. Guess you can tell which console I *DON'T* have. lol

MattGo74 · 10-20-2011, 11:57 AM

Also, at one point where I tried cuffing someone it said "hold f" but I held it and nothing happened. Next time it worked and every other "hold f" after worked.

wdcr0ck · 10-20-2011, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattGo74

Also, at one point where I tried cuffing someone it said "hold f" but I held it and nothing happened. Next time it worked and every other "hold f" after worked.

Probably gonna need a little more detail on that one. Any idea what might have caused it?

10-20-2011, 11:33 AM	#1
wdcr0ck Join Date: Oct 2008 Reputation: 63 Posts: 880	PAYDAY - Bugs, Feedback, Tweaks and Patch Ideas? Howdy Forum, Now that we have the game and can kick it around a bit, it's time to document the bugs we find, tweaks we need, and stuff that we think Overkill should patch. Post your ideas to the thread, please, and I'll add them here. Bug, Tweaks, and Patch Requests FIXEDLack of Advanced Video Settings - FSAA/CSAA/vsync/details FIXEDAbility to mute another player Xbox360 gamepad support FIXED - logitech rumble pad2 issues, keyboard slimstar 320 issues Ammo and Doctor bags on Player Models. Mouse look/aim down sight sensitivity is 1:1 FIXEDoption to toggle crouch game change my refreshrate to 59Hz ? FIXED - Issues with G-13 - workaround is to disconnect G13 and reboot PC. One user also reported disconnecting G13 and killing any G13-related apps then game would start. Mouse lag -- reported as "lurchy despite different sensitivity settings". Possibly related to mouse smoothing FIXED - Random crashes to desktop -- possibly related to gamepad/joysticks being connected to the PC. Temp fix is to disconnect them and restart PC. FIXEDNeed a pause button -- press ESC should pause the game. FIXED - PS3 prompt found in game -- http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/61...7B70D4141C918/ FIXEDNot all keys can be mapped/remapped - User wants to replace WASD with the arrow keys but was unable remap the left/right arrow. They are mapped to change weapons. Once the change weapons keys are mapped to something else, like mousewheel, user can map left/right movement to left/right arrow keys. FIXEDUnable to start game using Steam - Have to navigate to game folder and launch EXE directly. Might also require Administrator privileges. Overkill is aware of the issue. FIXEDGame needs an "easy" setting - some users are finding the normal difficulty level a bit challenging. FIXEDUnable to start game. Gets to "loading" then crashes to desktop FIXEDAI refuses to escape from the first bank. They stay in the bank shooting at police. Unable to remap ENTER key - Known issue. From Overkill, "We are looking into this guys, but for now you cannot remap ENTER, TAB, ESC and probably some other ones, we will keep you updated" Can we remap / or \ keys? What is the default FOV? Can it be changed? No ability to lean or peek around corners? FIXED ( DROP IN ) Request for dedicated server support - Overkill is reported to be working on something even better than dedicated server support. No other details available right now. FIXEDRequest for iron sight toggle key - need the ability to toggle between normal and iron sight. Is there a console in the game we can access to manually change game settings? Can we have a votekick option for multiplayer? Request ability to see actual Player names/nicks in MP instead of just game nicknames FIXEDCan we join games already in session? FIXEDset a minimum Reputation cap. FIXEDRequest for an option to "hold to crouch" v/s "toggle to crouch" BUG: In the bank heist, after placing the drill your gun clips through the drills interface. When being tazed, the gun never stops firing/fires over ammo capacity.[/B] BUG: When coming out of being tazed, the gun has the same amount of bullets as it did when you were first shocked (fairly sure that isn't intentional, Overkill staff can confirm or deny this). Patch Info Overkill released their first patch on 10/21. Details: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2191958 Demo availability So far, we've only seen a demo for PS3. Nothing about a PC demo yet. Multi-Monitor/Eyefinity Support? PAYDAY does not support multi-monitors or Eyefinity. However, at least two people have run PAYDAY with multiple monitors and say it works great. So, officially unsupported but should work. Sound Issues 1) Ventrilo/teamspeak and volume - Some background about the issue and a fix: First off the fact that ventrilo/teamspeak are being lowered in volume when running the game isn't a problem with the game itself, it's a feature of windows called 'ducking'. What ducking does is lower the volume of things when you're in communication based programs (because the game keeps the mic open all the time, ducking kicks in and lowers the volume of everything else). I can only speak for Windows 7 here, but if you right click on the little speaker icon next to the clock (bottom right corner on your desktop) you can choose 'playback devices' and then go to the 'communications' tab and set it to 'do nothing'. This will disable ducking and stop the game lowering the volume of other programs. Courtesy of WskOsc 2) Lack of push-to-talk capability -- press "T" to chat? What else is needed? What DLC is planned? From Overkill: Hi our Level and Art team is working hard on the DLC since a while now: Wihtout giving the exact content away here is short yes no to your question: Will DLC include: -More heists and levels? YES -More equipment? YES -More Characters/Skins YES -More Skill Trees/Skills YES -Estimated price range? Not decided yet. Last edited by Overkill_Ilija: 01-19-2012 at 12:48 PM. Reason: added mouse lag / random crashes / pause button

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10-20-2011, 11:35 AM	#2
Schmeng Join Date: May 2010 Reputation: 150 Posts: 1,091	the mouse lag i don't know if it's from forcing fps or it's some v-sync thing ; but i've tried with different sensitivity settings and it remains lurchy as hell - makes the game and aiming unplayable.

10-20-2011, 11:43 AM	#4
MattGo74 Join Date: Sep 2011 Reputation: 14 Posts: 423	Yeah the mouse control sucks.

10-20-2011, 11:44 AM	#5
maneaterhp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Reputation: 63 Posts: 607	How about in single player when you press escape it pauses the game.

10-20-2011, 11:49 AM	#9
maneaterhp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Reputation: 63 Posts: 607	On every game when you press escape to go to a menu unless its multiplayer it pauses it. Its a standard. Just shows this is a quickly botched together port...

10-20-2011, 11:53 AM	#11
maneaterhp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Reputation: 63 Posts: 607	in single player*

10-20-2011, 11:55 AM	#12
Squidbot Guest Posts: n/a	That's a PS3 button prompt.

10-20-2011, 11:57 AM	#14
MattGo74 Join Date: Sep 2011 Reputation: 14 Posts: 423	Also, at one point where I tried cuffing someone it said "hold f" but I held it and nothing happened. Next time it worked and every other "hold f" after worked.