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Old 11-19-2011, 04:08 PM   #1
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CD Key Validity checker

There should be a way to check if a CD key is valid/un-used without having to put it in and tie it to your account.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:09 PM   #2
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Not to object, but...why, exactly?
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:10 PM   #3
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Why? It's either valid or it is not. Attach to your account or not...

A validity checker would only promote people to try to game the system.

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Old 11-19-2011, 04:11 PM   #4
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Why? It's either valid or it is not. Attach to your account or not...

A validity checker would only promote people to try to game the system.
Exactly, however I figure he means for trading purposes. Still, people could just spam combinations of letters and numbers with scripts and get free games, like you said.

So, it's a good idea in concept, but people would abuse it.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:14 PM   #5
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Still, people could just spam combinations of letters and numbers with scripts and get free games, like you said.
Whats stopping people from doing that now?
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:19 PM   #6
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Whats stopping people from doing that now?
Same thing that will stop them anyway: huge number of possible combinations.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:24 PM   #7
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^Well, and presumably Valve could detect dodgy behaviour like mass-repeated failed attempts to add games by key, and suspend the account or something. Though of course you could build that functionality into a key checker too, since it necessarily connects to the same system. Not sure what the full implications of such a tool would be.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:24 PM   #8
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For trading purposes. you can alwayssss try huge numbers of combinations with anything that uses a key. trading keys is risky, because of random combinations, scammers, or leaked keys (like dirt 3). also, if everyone insisted on posting proof of validity, then all steam keys that are traded would leave an electronic paper trail, even if they weren't redeemed.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:27 PM   #9
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Whats stopping people from doing that now?
Right now, if you spam a lot of CD key numbers, your account could be suspended.

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All accounts in a user's possession for any of the following activities will be suspended:

Piracy or Hacking

This includes using an unauthorized ("hacked") Steam client to access Steam, attempting to register fake CD Keys or attempting to register a CD Key which has been published on the internet.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...5406-WFZC-5519

So, if you try registering too many CD keys or fake CD keys on steam, your account may be suspended.

However, if a CD key checker was to appear, then people could spam CD keys free of any repercussions, as they could just say "I was checking the CD keys that someone traded me." Of course, they could make it so that you could check only one CD key per week, for example.

Still, why not trade within the Steam Trade system?

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Old 11-19-2011, 04:29 PM   #10
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However, if a CD key checker was to appear, then people could spam CD keys free of any repercussions, as they could just say "I was checking the CD keys that someone traded me."
A CD key checker could have a lockout mechanism. Spam too many invalid keys and it prevents you from using it for X amount of time AND flags your account (possibly).
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:35 PM   #11
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Still, why not trade within the Steam Trade system?
Well for one, because sometimes you get keys (like a couple of spares I have from recent Indie Royale bundles) that aren't in that system.

It would be great if Steam added the option to redeem keys for games you already own, and have them go to your inventory. At the moment it just fails and says you already own that game.
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Old 11-19-2011, 05:23 PM   #12
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A CD key checker could have a lockout mechanism. Spam too many invalid keys and it prevents you from using it for X amount of time AND flags your account (possibly).
And why would you be spamming the checker on your own account ?

Just spam the checker with a second* account until you find a valid key.


*Or, for the people spamming keys for profit, several stolen accounts.
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Old 11-19-2011, 05:25 PM   #13
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Impose a 90 day minimum account age to use it
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:17 AM   #14
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I really wish Valve would add either this or the ability to redeem a key as a gift / inventory item, as it makes me a bit hesitant keeping my list of unused keys for possible in-system trade sweetener, just because "what if" for some reason one of my extra keys is no longer valid.

This actually happened to me in the winter sale, where I know I never used an HIB1 Steam key yet it didn't go through and I had to scramble to come up with another offer. If I could have tested the key first, it would've saved quite a bit of hassle. Even more so if I could instantly add all my extra keys to my inventory. I'd like to stick to the in-system trade options, but with the indie bundles and better sales for Steam-activated games from other stores, this isn't completely reasonable.

Not holding my breath, but either option would make me much less hesitant to get into the trading community.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:36 AM   #15
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I really wish Valve would add either this or the ability to redeem a key as a gift / inventory item, as it makes me a bit hesitant keeping my list of unused keys for possible in-system trade sweetener, just because "what if" for some reason one of my extra keys is no longer valid.
Regional restrictions of CD keys prevent them from doing that.
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