I give you the horrifying facts! Proof that the delay of the PC version was a SCAM!

#DEADC0DE · 11-24-2011, 01:52 AM

I was doing some... analyzing of the game and managed to extract the build details.

Build name: QA_APPROVED_BUILD_JANUARY_2011
Compiled on: September 27th, 2011 at 18:18.21

The build of the game we have was compiled at the end of September. Probably the same time the console versions were. This gives almost a month worth of Gold which is normal.

And last QA approval was in January...

So... Since this build of the game was compiled on September 27th, almost a month before the console release, noone could possibly have worked to improve any graphics or implementing any PhysX from October 18th till November 15-18th (When it was spotted in stores).

It's exactly like I thought. All that, was implemented long ago, and the delay was just to gain more console sales.

koksii · 11-24-2011, 01:56 AM

You would have done the same, if you would be a publisher.
Because your job is it to gain much as money as you can get.

Mikey- · 11-24-2011, 02:40 AM

I'm not following the logic here?

How does delaying the PC version equate to more profit? Okay, so maybe you sell more console copies, because certain PC people are impatient. But then you lose their PC sale? I don't get what you're saying? You're aware, of course, that console games cost slightly more because that money goes to Microsoft?

Tox Laximus · 11-24-2011, 02:49 AM

The trick they pulled was to delay the PC versions twice to try to persuade PC owners to buy a console and the game.

Under handed dealing with M$ and Sony, greedy parasites.

If you managed to wait them out then good for you.

Land of plenty · 11-24-2011, 02:51 AM

WB don't like us, we are all thieves.

#DEADC0DE · 11-24-2011, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey-

I'm not following the logic here?

How does delaying the PC version equate to more profit? Okay, so maybe you sell more console copies, because certain PC people are impatient. But then you lose their PC sale? I don't get what you're saying? You're aware, of course, that console games cost slightly more because that money goes to Microsoft?

Let me help you to see the logic.

It's a deal with Microsoft to get people to buy consoles out of desperation, and to gain more sales.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadPhoenix86

i bought the X360 version. and did already spend over 50 hours of gameplay.

definitely looking forward to do it again on the PC version

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jgamer

I think I'm gonna get it on PC as well even though I have the console version

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnypay

got it on 360 but i got a free copy with my gtx590 so will play it on the pc aswell

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Originally Posted by unclefreaky

played it through on xbox360, awesome game, better than asylum, the menus are improved, graphics improved, player control improved, fight scene animations improved. just waiting to see it in it's DX11 PC graphic glory. it looks amazingly good on console but always twice as good on PC. but if they don't start preloading soon it will be delayed due to server crashes and super slow connections.

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Originally Posted by MADDOGGE

I'm playing a mooched 360 copy currently but I'll wait until all the DLC there is going to be is released and there is a GOTY version and then pick it up for the PC.

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Originally Posted by BC2 Cypher

I have it on console but I can't wait to get it on PC.

Starting to see it?

Diegog5 · 11-24-2011, 03:12 AM

Ok we see it, but what are we or they going to do they are probably laughing at your post right now.

Strike_You · 11-24-2011, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #DEADC0DE

Let me help you to see the logic.

It's a deal with Microsoft to get people to buy consoles out of desperation, and to gain more sales.

Starting to see it?

Well done lol +rep

ParadoxSalem · 11-24-2011, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tox Laximus

The trick they pulled was to delay the PC versions twice to try to persuade PC owners to buy a console and the game.

Under handed dealing with M$ and Sony, greedy parasites.

If you managed to wait them out then good for you.

I was sorely tempted. This is one of two pre-orders I had for November, both delayed from the console release.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Land of plenty

WB don't like us, we are all thieves.

I pre-ordered, I paid, knowing full well I couldn't sell my copy on to Gamestop or another, less fortunate gamer. I bought my copy on PC and did not pirate. I am the 99%.

#OCCUPYGAMING

(ok, I know it's more than 99% that probably don't pay, but still. my point stands)

Land of plenty · 11-24-2011, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #DEADC0DE

Let me help you to see the logic.

It's a deal with Microsoft to get people to buy consoles out of desperation, and to gain more sales.

I'm starting to wonder if all the problems games are having running DX11 now could be part of a plan to push Windows 8 which ships with Direct 3D 11.1.

WB could even come out with an 'Enhanced Edition' to take full advantage of speedups and new features.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParadoxSalem

I was sorely tempted. This is one of two pre-orders I had for November, both delayed from the console release.

I was just angry. I still am and its really taking away from my enjoyment of the game.

darktanker89 · 11-24-2011, 05:37 AM

Yeah it was a ♥♥♥♥ing scam !! it's why it actually don't work on dx11 ... consol don't use dx11 and it ask a lot of work to "convert" it, problem of games primary made for consol. So don't whine it ask more time to finish it.

Mountain Man · 11-24-2011, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #DEADC0DE

I was doing some... analyzing of the game and managed to extract the build details.

Build name: QA_APPROVED_BUILD_JANUARY_2011
Compiled on: September 27th, 2011 at 18:18.21

I assume that's the main executable you're talking about? If we give Rocksteady the benefit of the doubt, it's possible that the main executable is a generic build with hooks to external system specific libraries in order to facilitate cross platform development. That would mean that Rocksteady could have done later work on library files specific to the PC version which would not be reflected in the compile date of the main executable.

Of course that still doesn't explain or excuse the broken DX11 support, but lets not assume they outright lied to us.

Ricky Nihil · 11-24-2011, 07:07 AM

This was assumed right from the very start. But Sarah, the community liason person on the official forum flat out lied in desperation that the reason for the game's delay was because 'we are still working on it'.

Most of us decided to blame Warner Brothers for everything, but Rocksteady themselves look to be equally to blame for the whole mess. Why did they even bother to make a PC version when they apparently didn't want to? Our few quid too much for them to resist?

villen42 · 11-24-2011, 07:31 AM

oh wow. the fact that the PC game was sitting on store shelves long ago does not prove it. we needed some uberintelligent human being to show us the truth messing with the game files. thanks for opening our eyes!

btw, i don't blame them. every company has the right to make some money, even with some "master race" that can't deal with his game running on directx9.

Gamer@Heart · 11-24-2011, 07:57 AM

Well at least your pc can HANDLE BAC!! T_T

11-24-2011, 01:52 AM	#1
#DEADC0DE Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Reputation: 38 Posts: 225	I give you the horrifying facts! Proof that the delay of the PC version was a SCAM! I was doing some... analyzing of the game and managed to extract the build details. Build name: QA_APPROVED_BUILD_JANUARY_2011 Compiled on: September 27th, 2011 at 18:18.21 The build of the game we have was compiled at the end of September. Probably the same time the console versions were. This gives almost a month worth of Gold which is normal. And last QA approval was in January... So... Since this build of the game was compiled on September 27th, almost a month before the console release, noone could possibly have worked to improve any graphics or implementing any PhysX from October 18th till November 15-18th (When it was spotted in stores). It's exactly like I thought. All that, was implemented long ago, and the delay was just to gain more console sales. Last edited by #DEADC0DE: 11-24-2011 at 02:20 AM. Reason: Updated title; Updated QA details

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11-24-2011, 01:56 AM	#2
koksii Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Reputation: 0 Posts: 34	You would have done the same, if you would be a publisher. Because your job is it to gain much as money as you can get.

11-24-2011, 02:40 AM	#3
Mikey- Join Date: May 2011 Reputation: 133 Posts: 1,382	I'm not following the logic here? How does delaying the PC version equate to more profit? Okay, so maybe you sell more console copies, because certain PC people are impatient. But then you lose their PC sale? I don't get what you're saying? You're aware, of course, that console games cost slightly more because that money goes to Microsoft?

11-24-2011, 02:49 AM	#4
Tox Laximus Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Reputation: 16 Posts: 248	The trick they pulled was to delay the PC versions twice to try to persuade PC owners to buy a console and the game. Under handed dealing with M$ and Sony, greedy parasites. If you managed to wait them out then good for you.

11-24-2011, 02:51 AM	#5
Land of plenty Join Date: Aug 2010 Reputation: 10 Posts: 175	WB don't like us, we are all thieves.

11-24-2011, 03:12 AM	#7
Diegog5 Join Date: Dec 2008 Reputation: 51 Posts: 210	Ok we see it, but what are we or they going to do they are probably laughing at your post right now.

11-24-2011, 05:37 AM	#11
darktanker89 Join Date: Jul 2011 Reputation: 0 Posts: 9	Yeah it was a ♥♥♥♥ing scam !! it's why it actually don't work on dx11 ... consol don't use dx11 and it ask a lot of work to "convert" it, problem of games primary made for consol. So don't whine it ask more time to finish it.

11-24-2011, 07:07 AM	#13
Ricky Nihil Join Date: Aug 2009 Reputation: 43 Posts: 117	This was assumed right from the very start. But Sarah, the community liason person on the official forum flat out lied in desperation that the reason for the game's delay was because 'we are still working on it'. Most of us decided to blame Warner Brothers for everything, but Rocksteady themselves look to be equally to blame for the whole mess. Why did they even bother to make a PC version when they apparently didn't want to? Our few quid too much for them to resist?

11-24-2011, 07:31 AM	#14
villen42 Join Date: Oct 2011 Reputation: 20 Posts: 51	oh wow. the fact that the PC game was sitting on store shelves long ago does not prove it. we needed some uberintelligent human being to show us the truth messing with the game files. thanks for opening our eyes! btw, i don't blame them. every company has the right to make some money, even with some "master race" that can't deal with his game running on directx9.

11-24-2011, 07:57 AM	#15
Gamer@Heart Join Date: Aug 2011 Reputation: 35 Posts: 464	Well at least your pc can HANDLE BAC!! T_T