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Old 12-17-2011, 12:07 AM   #1
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Valve is banning trolls

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Hello ******,

Thank you for contacting Steam Support.

This account was being used to harrass and grief players in Left 4 Dead / Left 4 Dead 2. The account has been blocked from the Community for one month.

Once the block is lifted, please refrain from harassing and griefing users or the account may be permanently disabled.

For more information on Valve's policies, please see the Steam Subscriber Agreement and the Rules of Steam Online Conduct.

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Valve vs trolls.

- Added blocklist functionality to Left 4 Dead 2

and now this..

http://imageshack.us/f/687/l4d2gm.jpg/

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Old 12-17-2011, 01:34 AM   #2
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About damn time, and about two years too late.
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:43 AM   #3
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interesting
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:46 AM   #4
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Does this include rude modded server admins/admins not playing fair on modded servers?
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:49 AM   #5
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Does this include rude modded server admins/admins not playing fair on modded servers?
Why not? You aren't going to want to end up back there are you?

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Old 12-17-2011, 02:03 AM   #6
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About damn time, and about two years too late.
Got to love whining.
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Old 12-17-2011, 03:11 AM   #7
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Got to love whining.
it's true, though ... cant deny that lol
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Old 12-17-2011, 03:41 AM   #8
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Eh.

Personally, I only think people should be banned if they are hacking or some other illegal thing.

If they are just griefing, why can't vote kick suffice? Why does Valve have to step in?
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Old 12-17-2011, 03:56 AM   #9
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Eh.

Personally, I only think people should be banned if they are hacking or some other illegal thing.

If they are just griefing, why can't vote kick suffice? Why does Valve have to step in?
I agree. I was shocked when I saw their response..

And I'm wondering.. How do they point out the trolls? Do they send their employees to left 4 dead servers and troll hunt? Do players report this to valve officials? I can see this being abused by a lot of players..

ex. You and your friends pubstomp some people and you and your friends are banned the next day because you messed with the wrong people.
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:03 AM   #10
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I agree. I was shocked when I saw their response..

And I'm wondering.. How do they point out the trolls? Do they send their employees to left 4 dead servers and troll hunt? Do players report this to valve officials? I can see this being abused by a lot of players..

ex. You and your friends pubstomp some people and you and your friends are banned the next day because you messed with the wrong people.
Well, I don't even understand why people (and Valve) are suddenly so hysterical about griefers and whatnot.

As I've said in other threads, I have 600 hours in this game. I exclusively play pub Versus, and griefers are rarely ever a problem. In fact, I can't remember the last time I've encountered an outright griefer.

If anything, the bigger problem is people abusing the systems that Valve has already set up to deal with griefers--i.e. like vote kicking. I see way more people calling vote kicks for little to no reason than I see people griefing.

I don't think we need a "block" feature, nor do we need Valve babysitting and banning griefers. I think the systems already in place are fine. Yes they are imperfect and can be abused, but so will any system.

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Old 12-17-2011, 04:04 AM   #11
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I agree. I was shocked when I saw their response..

And I'm wondering.. How do they point out the trolls? Do they send their employees to left 4 dead servers and troll hunt? Do players report this to valve officials? I can see this being abused by a lot of players..

ex. You and your friends pubstomp some people and you and your friends are banned the next day because you messed with the wrong people.
A votekick won't suffice because usually griefers do it often and multiple times in a row.

That would be like just giving a fine to someone who keeps stealing things instead of eventually sending them to jail.

Valve employees sometimes play L4D2 and are griefed themselves, so I'm sure they give out bans first hand.
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:20 AM   #12
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And so how does Valve tell if they are issuing a just block?

What if I post someone's ID on b or something and somehow manage to get 100 people to falsely report them for harassment? Do they not think about this when they decide to be champions of the people?
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:24 AM   #13
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lol griefers think it's oke to grief

funny
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Old 12-17-2011, 06:31 AM   #14
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lol griefers think it's oke to grief

funny
This is exactly why i got mad when l4d2 first went on sale for $6.79

why would you respect a game that you can buy for less than lunch at McFastfood.
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Old 12-17-2011, 07:03 AM   #15
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it's true, though ... cant deny that lol
Its still annoying to whine about it, since its finally out.
We got what we wanted.
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