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Old 12-17-2011, 09:46 AM   #1
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Steam OS

Imagine a steam OS,pretty much like windows except it's made for gamers.Has programs like game booster and others built into the OS,has automatic updates of our video drivers and let us play our games with ease.Automatic defraging and verification of our game cache files.Make a deal with google and we can use google chrome or give us the ability to use any web browser that we want make it work like windows except for gaming.Make it free like steam already is but lock some features that get unlocked by purchasing any game.Facebook in steam contacts,skype for voice chatting and stuff like that.Make it pretty much only made for gaming

Give us a good web browser and other stuff and we could have the best OS ever.

Imagine it looking something like this

http://solmiler.deviantart.com/art/P...ws-7-188414149

except the windows icon would be the steam icon.

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Old 12-17-2011, 09:49 AM   #2
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Yeah, I would love an operating system missing the basic features all other operating systems have. And one that takes over a year to add promised updates? Wow, who WOULDN'T want that! And only one browser choice which doesnt allow zooming and other basics? Man, best idea ever. All black color scheme with no options? sign me up
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:49 AM   #3
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If this were to happen it would be a flavor of Linux. But its not going to happen as almost all the games are written for Windows.
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:50 AM   #4
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lol....
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:54 AM   #5
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The start-up sound would have to be Steamy windows.

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Old 12-17-2011, 09:59 AM   #6
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"pretty much like windows"? You serious? What "Steam OS" would that be? You can make your windows just like that. You can even make "unofficial" installer that will configure any new Windows simply like that.

If there would be ANY reason for SteamOS.. buy console. They have OS built for playing games and do all the stuff you want. What is reason to have PC when you do not use it's only power - run wide spectrum software (and you need uniOS like Windows for that).

And on top of that... look at Steam client... I don't really believe I want OS anything like that. There are so much awful GUI related issues (categorizing games for once). I mean, you look at Google products and you can tell: "ok, their OS could actually work". And it works as it does exactly what it is meant to do and because Google is capable of creating working browser. Steam client is.. quite obsolete software. Fulfilling its function, yes, but lacks so many things that would make our gaming lives truly enjoyable (custom links to any game maybe?).

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Old 12-17-2011, 10:35 AM   #7
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If this were to happen it would be a flavor of Linux. But its not going to happen as almost all the games are written for Windows.
Not really.

In order to target the Playstation 3 platform many commercial games have to be built to target a PowerPC Linux kernel with OpenGL ES 2.0 rendering support. The Playstation 2 also used a Linux kernel, but based against the MIPS architecture and without a traditional GPU rendering setup (Emotion Engine).

It would be better to say that most commercial games are optimized from their source code to run on Microsoft Windows Clients. It would also be appropriate to say that many Windows Client oriented games leverage DirectX based API's in order to handle hardware acceleration. Replacing HLSL with GLSL isn't exactly easy, but it is done on a routine basis.

In recent years the commercial market has been forced to adopt a more platform neutral development position, leveraging "Open" Application Programming Interfaces such as OpenGL in order to target non Microsoft platforms. Such platforms include those based on Apple IOS/Mach_BSD devices such as Ipad and Iphone; Android/Linux devices such as Android phones and Chromium Devices; and WebOS/Linux devices such as HP's own internally built products.

Most of the independent games market has adopted a platform neutral development strategy enabling deployment on multiple operating systems. Which is where we get to kind of the point of the matter: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2289102

That particular thread was about a native GNU/Linux client for the Steam Platform. From my point of view Steam doesn't really have any choice but to expand into the GNU/Linux market. The Independent Market trend of platform neutral "PC Gaming" isn't going to go away... and the upcoming Windows 8 release is only going to push more developers to platforms that are progressing forward and not going back to a digital stone age.

Now, my gut reaction is that Valve isn't too terribly interested in building or trying to maintain their own Linux distribution. It's a difficult job without a whole lot of thanks. Also as far as I am aware most of Valve's programmers are application-oriented... not operating-system oriented.

That being said, Valve likely would not need to provide the operating system or the background infrastructure for an Operating System. It would be really simple to get distribution agreements with consumer oriented GNU distributions like Mepis Linux or PCLinuxOS, and let those distributions handle the OS support.

One of the ideas I've floated in the past is a partnership between Valve and Sony. Okay, many of us PC gamers probably have a pretty low opinion of Sony. That being said Sony has both hardware and software ambitions with Linux platforms, specifically Android Linux. Sony also has years experience working with Linux platforms and optimizing games for Linux platforms. Sony's Playstation Suite is already setup to offer a "Playstation Experience" on compliant hardware. Basically that means that if you have an Android Platform device that meets the hardware requirements you can run Playstation Games directly... without actually having to have a Sony-branded device.

Imagine for a second if Sony were to combine it's Playstation Suite with the Steam Platform, kind of an expansion of the Portal 2 PS3 deal. You pay a little bit more for the game you want, but you unlock a SteamPlay version of whatever software title. Now imagine being able to play that game on your Playstation Console, your Playstation Handheld, any -other- hardware specification compliant Android/Linux device through PlaystationStore or Steam, and any Steam compatible computer system be that platform GNU/Linux, Microsoft Windows, or Apple OSX/Mach_BSD.

Admittedly such a concept is probably too far wide-ranging for either company to consider... Sony's probably too much of a control freak... but hey... it's just a rough idea.. and Sony may actually be desperate enough to consider such a partnership.
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Old 12-17-2011, 11:35 AM   #8
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Actually OP has an interesting idea. Imagine a dedicated gaming OS (possibly dual boot) that would bypass all the bloat and overhead of Windows coupled with an API that would provide lower level access to hardware than DirectX could ever dream of would certainly be interesting. Basically a console ecosystem in a PC form-factor but tons more powerful, better hardware, more customization and upgrade-ability. Oh well, twas a nice dream.
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:54 PM   #9
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Actually OP has an interesting idea. Imagine a dedicated gaming OS (possibly dual boot) that would bypass all the bloat and overhead of Windows coupled with an API that would provide lower level access to hardware than DirectX could ever dream of would certainly be interesting. Basically a console ecosystem in a PC form-factor but tons more powerful, better hardware, more customization and upgrade-ability. Oh well, twas a nice dream.
this.
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:59 PM   #10
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Actually OP has an interesting idea. Imagine a dedicated gaming OS (possibly dual boot) that would bypass all the bloat and overhead of Windows coupled with an API that would provide lower level access to hardware than DirectX could ever dream of would certainly be interesting. Basically a console ecosystem in a PC form-factor but tons more powerful, better hardware, more customization and upgrade-ability. Oh well, twas a nice dream.
you basically just described Linux, OpenGL, and OpenCL in a nutshell.

Why dream when that reality is already a reality?
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:59 PM   #11
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A lower level API with direct hardware access would require game developers to start coding for specific hardware. That alone makes it non-viable. Let alone things like driver support, and hardware compatibility.
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:00 PM   #12
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you basically just described Linux, OpenGL, and OpenCL in a nutshell.

Why dream when that reality is already a reality?
OpenGL/CL isn't "lower level" than DirectX.
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:08 PM   #13
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That would be awful.
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Old 12-17-2011, 03:43 PM   #14
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Won't work.

The reason is that most of the games on Steam require Windows.
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:17 PM   #15
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If I could boot to something that had a minimum of background tasks so the maximum CPU and RAM was utilised by game, I'd like that.

Whether you would consider a 'Steam OS' to fall under that description is another matter.
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