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Old 01-03-2012, 02:35 AM   #1
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Question seasoned ( Carbon? ) Steel vs Cast Iron

I noticed Lodge is rolling out some new seasoned Steel skillets. Is it still not recommended to do acidic , tomatoey, stuff in those ? Will they sear a steak , be as good as cast iron, etc ?

https://secure.lodgemfg.com/storefro...idProduct=4203

I've been thinking about a new 12" cast iron skillet ( old wagner ware though..) since mine rusted outside.
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:53 AM   #2
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Cast iron is still the way to go from what family tells me. I have a steel frying pan and it's an enormous pain in the to clean, moreso then cast iron.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:45 PM   #3
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Cast iron is still the way to go from what family tells me. I have a steel frying pan and it's an enormous pain in the to clean, moreso then cast iron.
Weird. I figured steel would be easier to clean, like stainless steel, but without putting it in the dishwasher.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:54 PM   #4
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I don't like it and I always get stuck washing it. I have no idea why it's so hard to clean but its horrible.
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:30 PM   #5
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Cast iron will always beat steel or aluminum for cooking imo. Cast iron properly seasoned is super low maintenance and has a natural no stick surface.
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:55 PM   #6
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Cast iron will always beat steel or aluminum for cooking imo. Cast iron properly seasoned is super low maintenance and has a natural no stick surface.
Alright. I'll buy another big black 12"
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Cast iron skillet.


They are cheaper anyway.
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:07 PM   #7
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Carbon steel is useful for different things than cast iron. For example, you can't get much better than carbon steel for something like a wok.

Cast iron = retains heat, slow to change temperature
carbon steel = distributes and releases heat quickly, very quick to change temperatures

Carbon steel is great for quickly frying something up (again, like with a wok). It's a to season though. It takes a lot more time and you can't just set the oven to cook it and walk away (at least, not with my wok which has bamboo handles so it can't go into the oven). I have to season it on the stove top and every spot on the wok has to be pressed up against the burner for like 30 seconds.
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:23 PM   #8
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Carbon steel is useful for different things than cast iron. For example, you can't get much better than carbon steel for something like a wok.

Cast iron = retains heat, slow to change temperature
carbon steel = distributes and releases heat quickly, very quick to change temperatures

Carbon steel is great for quickly frying something up (again, like with a wok). It's a to season though. It takes a lot more time and you can't just set the oven to cook it and walk away (at least, not with my wok which has bamboo handles so it can't go into the oven). I have to season it on the stove top and every spot on the wok has to be pressed up against the burner for like 30 seconds.
Screw that then. I'll continue my search for a WagnerWare , AB&I, or Griswold. I don't know about buying something like a Coleman that's made in China ? All Lodge Logic products I've had start chipping and flaking needing reseasoned about every month.
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Screw that then. I'll continue my search for a WagnerWare , AB&I, or Griswold. I don't know about buying something like a Coleman that's made in China ? All Lodge Logic products I've had start chipping and flaking needing reseasoned about every month.
Don't buy any cast iron made in china. It will contain lead.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:37 PM   #10
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Don't buy any cast iron made in china. It will contain lead.
How do you know that ?
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:25 PM   #11
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Alright. I'll buy another big black 12"
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Cast iron skillet.


They are cheaper anyway.
lol iseewatudidthere
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:27 PM   #12
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How do you know that ?
Even the toys from China are painted in lead.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:35 PM   #13
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How do you know that ?
There are no laws in China restricting the use of lead in food-grade products. Buying ingredients comes in different "grades" based on purity, with the less pure stuff less expensive.

Companies are only concerned with one thing: The almighty dollar. Are you really going to trust some no-name Chinese company to have chosen a high purity of materials for the cast iron that they sell at as low a price as possible to compete with competitors?

You really going to trust your life with that?
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:43 PM   #14
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There are no laws in China restricting the use of lead in food-grade products. Buying ingredients comes in different "grades" based on purity, with the less pure stuff less expensive.

Companies are only concerned with one thing: The almighty dollar. Are you really going to trust some no-name Chinese company to have chosen a high purity of materials for the cast iron that they sell at as low a price as possible to compete with competitors?

You really going to trust your life with that?
Any source about the actual amount of lead in their pans?

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Old 01-03-2012, 10:58 PM   #15
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Even the toys from China are painted in lead.
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There are no laws in China restricting the use of lead in food-grade products. Buying ingredients comes in different "grades" based on purity, with the less pure stuff less expensive.

Companies are only concerned with one thing: The almighty dollar. Are you really going to trust some no-name Chinese company to have chosen a high purity of materials for the cast iron that they sell at as low a price as possible to compete with competitors?

You really going to trust your life with that?
No. So what companies do you recommend ?
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