Best Pyro Loadout

dshin923 · 01-06-2012, 01:47 PM

What is the best Pyro loadout that will guarantee the most success?

Wakatteru · 01-06-2012, 01:48 PM

The one that leads your team to victory.

4812622 · 01-06-2012, 01:49 PM

Degreaser is unquestionably the best Pyro primary.
Flare Gun and Shotgun provide the most reliable killing power, but Detonator can compete with them with mobility and more reliable heckling.
The melee slot is a toss between the Axtinguisher and the Powerjack.

chaoztheory1 · 01-06-2012, 01:50 PM

Best is entirely subjective.

Also, this:

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Originally Posted by Wakatteru

The one that leads your team to victory.

dshin923 · 01-06-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 4812622

Degreaser is unquestionably the best Pyro primary.
Flare Gun and Shotgun provide the most reliable killing power, but Detonator can compete with them with mobility and more reliable heckling.
The melee slot is a toss between the Axtinguisher and the Powerjack.

Thanks for actually answering the question.

Shradow · 01-06-2012, 01:59 PM

Nothing will really "guarantee the most success" as you put it. It all depends on both the skill of the user and his opponent(s),and luck is involved in almost anything like this. The best stock FT user in the world could beat the best Degreaser user in the world, or the best Axtinguisher user could beat the best Powerjack user, and so on and so forth.

It's all a matter of perspective and there's nothing really set in stone.

Ryusuta · 01-06-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 4812622

Degreaser is unquestionably the best Pyro primary.

I question that. Degreaser is great. Really fantastic. But the Backburner really stands toe-to-toe with it in terms of usefulness. Phlogistinator is... frankly so different it's hard to compare, but has quite viable.

SammyQ · 01-06-2012, 02:05 PM

Comes down to how the game is going down.

Is your team awful? Degreaser

Is your team good? Flamethrower

Is the enemy team awful? Backburner

Do you want to win? Degreaser

Have you just stopped caring? Phlostiginigator

Do you dislike being crippled at range? Flare Gun or Man Melter

Can you aim and anticipate a target's movements? Flare Gun

Do you enjoy lighting people on fire? Detonator

Do you enjoy jumping? Detonator

Are you being a bodyguard for your team? Shotgun

Your team has a good medic? Powerjack

Do you want to lose? Axtinguisher

Your medic only heals your Heavies and Soldiers? Backscratcher

Is your engineer awful? Homewrecker

Is the enemy team full of Heavies and Medics? Change class.

Have you just stopped caring? Fire Axe

Have you just stopped caring? Reserve Shooter

QuantumPoole · 01-06-2012, 02:19 PM

I would probably say Degreaser/Shotgun/Axtinguisher or Shotty/Flare Jockey. The Axt gives you great killing power if you can get up close, and the Shotgun lets you handle situations where the Axt won't work, such as against other Pyros. The Gas Jockey set's speed bonus is awesome, and the Powerjack gives you extra survivability if you use it correctly.

Charro · 01-06-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SammyQ

Have you just stopped caring? Fire Axe

I still care and I use that thing D:

Full stock Pyro should have a set bonus, seriously

chzchan · 01-06-2012, 02:29 PM

Whatever works for you, OP.

Based on my experiences, maximum damage output comes from Degreaser/Flare Gun/Axtinguisher, but I stopped using this and moved onto the Jockey a long time ago.

Garfuncle · 01-06-2012, 03:09 PM

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Do you want to lose? Axtinguisher

I'm sorry, but what? Yeah, sure, if you rely on it to get ALL your kills you aren't going to do very well but as an ambush/combo tool? It's the best melee Pyro has. 195 dmg will one-shot everything but a heavy/overhealed soldier.

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Have you just stopped caring? Reserve Shooter

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

121 hitscan damage is nothing to scoff at. And in before "i culd do taht wit shoty lolz" No. You cannot one-shot a Scout/Spy/Engie/Sniper/Medic with the shotgun. You cannot kill a Soldier or Demo as fast with the Shotgun. You cannot force a Heavy to retreat with one shot with the shotgun.

Minicrits. Do. A lot. Of. DAMAGE.

/end rant

thejimz · 01-06-2012, 03:52 PM

Use the one that will establish your fundamentals, and thereby guarantee future success. I'm talking, of course, about the vanilla loadout.

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Originally Posted by chaoztheory1

Best is entirely subjective.

Hmmmm... nope. The Degreaser is clearly the best primary, and the Axtinguisher is the best melee (not saying much) outside of a few situations. Only the secondary slot lacks an obvious "best weapon"--but, even then, the Flare Gun, Shotgun and Detonator are the clear winners.

PubstarRunner · 01-06-2012, 04:04 PM

I like to use the stock flamethrower and flaregun. I've also taken to boycotting my melee weapon. Do what you like, the "best" pyro loadout is probably the gas jockey set with the shotgun or the degreaser, shotgun/flaregun, and axtinguisher.

EmceeProphIt · 01-06-2012, 04:22 PM

Secondaries are purely subjective and you'll often be switching which one you use.

Primary is dependent on playstyle, but default is not the best option for any playstyle the Pyro offers. Stealth and leaving people to burn while you escape? Backburner is better. Direct combat? Degreaser grants access to all weapons at once.

Melee is...weird. Axtinguisher and Powerjack are pretty much the only choices that make sense anymore.

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01-06-2012, 01:48 PM	#2
Wakatteru Join Date: Jun 2011 Reputation: 42 Posts: 394	The one that leads your team to victory.

01-06-2012, 01:49 PM	#3
4812622 Join Date: Jun 2011 Reputation: 1742 Posts: 10,934	Degreaser is unquestionably the best Pyro primary. Flare Gun and Shotgun provide the most reliable killing power, but Detonator can compete with them with mobility and more reliable heckling. The melee slot is a toss between the Axtinguisher and the Powerjack.

01-06-2012, 01:59 PM	#6
Shradow Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 1198 Posts: 6,541	Nothing will really "guarantee the most success" as you put it. It all depends on both the skill of the user and his opponent(s),and luck is involved in almost anything like this. The best stock FT user in the world could beat the best Degreaser user in the world, or the best Axtinguisher user could beat the best Powerjack user, and so on and so forth. It's all a matter of perspective and there's nothing really set in stone.

01-06-2012, 02:05 PM	#8
SammyQ Join Date: Jan 2011 Reputation: 1043 Posts: 2,217	Comes down to how the game is going down. Is your team awful? Degreaser Is your team good? Flamethrower Is the enemy team awful? Backburner Do you want to win? Degreaser Have you just stopped caring? Phlostiginigator Do you dislike being crippled at range? Flare Gun or Man Melter Can you aim and anticipate a target's movements? Flare Gun Do you enjoy lighting people on fire? Detonator Do you enjoy jumping? Detonator Are you being a bodyguard for your team? Shotgun Your team has a good medic? Powerjack Do you want to lose? Axtinguisher Your medic only heals your Heavies and Soldiers? Backscratcher Is your engineer awful? Homewrecker Is the enemy team full of Heavies and Medics? Change class. Have you just stopped caring? Fire Axe Have you just stopped caring? Reserve Shooter

01-06-2012, 02:19 PM	#9
QuantumPoole Join Date: Jun 2011 Reputation: 752 Posts: 2,343	I would probably say Degreaser/Shotgun/Axtinguisher or Shotty/Flare Jockey. The Axt gives you great killing power if you can get up close, and the Shotgun lets you handle situations where the Axt won't work, such as against other Pyros. The Gas Jockey set's speed bonus is awesome, and the Powerjack gives you extra survivability if you use it correctly.

01-06-2012, 02:29 PM	#11
chzchan Join Date: Dec 2010 Reputation: 621 Posts: 3,937	Whatever works for you, OP. Based on my experiences, maximum damage output comes from Degreaser/Flare Gun/Axtinguisher, but I stopped using this and moved onto the Jockey a long time ago.

01-06-2012, 04:04 PM	#14
PubstarRunner Join Date: May 2011 Reputation: 107 Posts: 1,909	I like to use the stock flamethrower and flaregun. I've also taken to boycotting my melee weapon. Do what you like, the "best" pyro loadout is probably the gas jockey set with the shotgun or the degreaser, shotgun/flaregun, and axtinguisher.

01-06-2012, 04:22 PM	#15
EmceeProphIt Join Date: May 2011 Reputation: 194 Posts: 1,082	Secondaries are purely subjective and you'll often be switching which one you use. Primary is dependent on playstyle, but default is not the best option for any playstyle the Pyro offers. Stealth and leaving people to burn while you escape? Backburner is better. Direct combat? Degreaser grants access to all weapons at once. Melee is...weird. Axtinguisher and Powerjack are pretty much the only choices that make sense anymore.