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Old 02-08-2012, 05:49 PM   #1
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i am talking about the finesse dagger move.

How does it work? The description doesnt explain that much.
I get the critical on my 3rd strike when i time the 3rd strike in some way?
And what is the timing, i cant get it to work at all.


i am ok with difficult timing attacks if i at least knew which of the attacks i had to time and an example of the right timing.
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:03 PM   #2
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did you check the Moves-page? It even shows a short clip of how it'll look.
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:17 PM   #3
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i am talking about the finesse dagger move.

How does it work? The description doesnt explain that much.
I get the critical on my 3rd strike when i time the 3rd strike in some way?
And what is the timing, i cant get it to work at all.


i am ok with difficult timing attacks if i at least knew which of the attacks i had to time and an example of the right timing.

its a broken ability. Not worth investing in
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:27 PM   #4
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did you check the Moves-page? It even shows a short clip of how it'll look.

my problem is not with the move itself, but with the bonus critical that you get when you time the attacks even better.
The description is not very accurate and it seems the timing window is insanely short.

I am very experienced in DMC 3/4, so i dont think its something that i "noob up", but i cant get this move to work.
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:29 PM   #5
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its a broken ability. Not worth investing in
what are you talking about?
I've just started up the game and can perform both the Dagger and Faeblade variant of that Move just fine. Both in and out of combat.
Maybe you simply suck at performing special Moves? The skill is definitely not broken


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my problem is not with the move itself, but with the bonus critical that you get when you time the attacks even better.
The description is not very accurate and it seems the timing window is insanely short.

I am very experienced in DMC 3/4, so i dont think its something that i "noob up", but i cant get this move to work.
All you can get is a critical with the finisher of that move, and you have to time your attack correctly to even get it. If you get the finisher, you should perform the crit.

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Old 02-08-2012, 06:40 PM   #6
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there are 2 versions of the 3rd it, one is the normal version that is extremely easy to get, the other makes red lighting come out of your hands/daggers and forces a crit and is extremely hard to get apparently.

you do not get that crit just by finishing the combo normally.
And the faeblade variant doesnt have that crit at all, so i think you misunderstand the problem
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:37 PM   #7
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Crossfire is the delayed attack one right? I use it all the time and it is fairly powerful and not at all broken. You can check the moves menu and it will play a short video about how it works/looks. Just attack, wait about 1 second and attack again (repeat for the third attack as well).
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:58 AM   #8
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jesus, do you people not read what i write at all?
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:14 AM   #9
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there are 2 versions of the 3rd it, one is the normal version that is extremely easy to get, the other makes red lighting come out of your hands/daggers and forces a crit and is extremely hard to get apparently.

you do not get that crit just by finishing the combo normally.
And the faeblade variant doesnt have that crit at all, so i think you misunderstand the problem
You need to time the second attack correctly for the crit to occur. Just practice the move, you'll eventually get the timing down.
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:20 AM   #10
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i asked what the timing is, i allready know that i have to time it. i never once got the crit and i tried it for over 30 mins on a mob by reloading.





edit: sorry for being unpolite, but it seems everyone is just trying to up their postcount oO
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:55 AM   #11
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i asked what the timing is, i allready know that i have to time it. i never once got the crit and i tried it for over 30 mins on a mob by reloading.





edit: sorry for being unpolite, but it seems everyone is just trying to up their postcount oO
The 2nd attack is not the 3rd strike. If you can time the 2nd attack correctly, the 3rd strike should be a crit regardless.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:05 AM   #12
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i am talking about the finesse dagger move.

How does it work? The description doesnt explain that much.
I get the critical on my 3rd strike when i time the 3rd strike in some way?
And what is the timing, i cant get it to work at all.


i am ok with difficult timing attacks if i at least knew which of the attacks i had to time and an example of the right timing.
The way I think of it is like a little more than a half-beat, if that makes sense. If you quickly say, "One-and-a-two-and-a-three", first hit is on "one", second is right as you say "two", third like just before you say "three". It's like just shy of a second between each, from my experience.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:40 AM   #13
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ok thanks i will try again, so far no luck
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:50 AM   #14
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For everyone interested, to get the red glow and the crit, the timing on the 2nd attack doesnt matter, but you need to press the 3rd attack early.
A good indication for timing is that you press it as soon as your char has both hands touching during the forward thrust of the 2nd attack.

you can train this without enemies, once you know what to do you can reliably pull this off every single time in combat, its rather easy.
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Old 02-11-2012, 05:11 AM   #15
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Here's a video with the timing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGzzW2CA9Nw
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