Mac OS X : Optimize Steam

PsykX · 03-08-2012, 08:07 AM

Hi,

So Steam on the Mac so far has been consuming so much CPU that it’s hard to believe. This results in jerky scrolling on every Mac supported and quick battery drain on MacBook Pros and Airs.

Please see this thread for ideas on how to optimize it, the solution is pretty well explained : http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2201872

Also, refer to these threads to confirm that Steam for the Mac has been broken since day 1. They’re all about crazy CPU usage :
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2519043
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2574165
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2309268
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2543384
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2527704

Please fix this bug ASAP. As I said, we’ve been waiting since day 1. I’d like some official input from Steam regarding this. Thanks.

Mangr0v3 · 03-08-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PsykX

So Steam on the Mac so far has been consuming so much CPU that it’s hard to believe. This results in jerky scrolling on every Mac supported and quick battery drain on MacBook Pros and Airs.

The jerky scrolling is a separate, unrelated bug.

PsykX · 03-08-2012, 03:59 PM

Worse than I thought. Should I create a new thread just for jerky scrolling ?

Mangr0v3 · 03-08-2012, 04:05 PM

You can, but it would only be about the fifteenth such thread on the topic.

PsykX · 03-08-2012, 05:43 PM

Maybe Steam listens to suggestions when they are posted 15 times in the forums ? :P

But seriously, I wish I could go fix it myself in the code at this point. Don’t they have support lines or something that we can saturate so they sort out these two issues finally ?

Mangr0v3 · 03-08-2012, 07:39 PM

You can try Steam Support, but after the level of complaining over the earlier part of the past just-under-two-years, I don't see how they don't know.

jeanlain · 03-09-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mangr0v3

The jerky scrolling is a separate, unrelated bug.

That bug is called "VGUI".

PsykX · 03-09-2012, 04:10 PM

All they had to do was to drag and drop the Webkit page viewer from Xcode in their app and voilà. It’s hard to imagine they managed to screw up the scrolling so bad, but they did.

Mangr0v3 · 03-10-2012, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PsykX

All they had to do was to drag and drop the Webkit page viewer from Xcode in their app and voilà. It’s hard to imagine they managed to screw up the scrolling so bad, but they did.

Not really, because they're not using NIBs at all.

Even then, they use Chrome Embedded's WebKit, not Safari/OS X's WebKit, even though Steam links against WebKit.framework. And since Chrome on OS X has decent scrolling, it's hard to imagine (without doing too much research) how Valve either screwed it up, or what Chrome did that's not in the public source code. I'm pretty sure Chromium has decent scrolling though, so that would make it purely a Valve screwup then.

jeanlain · 03-10-2012, 12:04 PM

Isn't scrolling managed by application code (that is, not webkit)?

Mangr0v3 · 03-10-2012, 04:11 PM

I don't know, logically they would just throw in a webkit view and that's it, like PsykX alluded to. Although last I heard most of Steam was actually WebKit, so they probably rebuilt things....

I don't know.

Lord_I666 · 03-22-2012, 04:05 PM

buy a copy of Windows. speaking from a strictly Sys admin of several companies standpoint- Macs are technologically inferior machines. I intend no offence, but Linux and Windows are much more powerful. and Im not just some casual user who is spewing sh*t out of my mouth, I have a lifetime of experiences and several degrees in computer sciences

Mangr0v3 · 03-22-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_I666

and Im not just some casual user who is spewing sh*t out of my mouth

The rest of your post seems to contradict that.

masterchef341 · 03-23-2012, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord_I666

buy a copy of Windows. speaking from a strictly Sys admin of several companies standpoint- Macs are technologically inferior machines. I intend no offence, but Linux and Windows are much more powerful. and Im not just some casual user who is spewing sh*t out of my mouth, I have a lifetime of experiences and several degrees in computer sciences

If you had even a bachelor's degree in computer science, you wouldn't waste your time trolling in forums about how terrible macs are.

It's really funny how people often say something to the effect of: "I'm not X, and I'm not doing Y" - and then demonstrate conclusively that they are X, and are undoubtedly doing Y.

03-08-2012, 08:07 AM	#1
PsykX Join Date: Jan 2011 Reputation: 0 Posts: 13	Mac OS X : Optimize Steam Hi, So Steam on the Mac so far has been consuming so much CPU that it’s hard to believe. This results in jerky scrolling on every Mac supported and quick battery drain on MacBook Pros and Airs. Please see this thread for ideas on how to optimize it, the solution is pretty well explained : http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2201872 Also, refer to these threads to confirm that Steam for the Mac has been broken since day 1. They’re all about crazy CPU usage : http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2519043 http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2574165 http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2309268 http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2543384 http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2527704 Please fix this bug ASAP. As I said, we’ve been waiting since day 1. I’d like some official input from Steam regarding this. Thanks. Last edited by PsykX: 03-08-2012 at 08:10 AM.

03-09-2012, 04:10 PM	#8
PsykX Join Date: Jan 2011 Reputation: 0 Posts: 13	All they had to do was to drag and drop the Webkit page viewer from Xcode in their app and voilà. It’s hard to imagine they managed to screw up the scrolling so bad, but they did. Last edited by PsykX: 03-09-2012 at 04:18 PM.

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03-08-2012, 03:59 PM	#3
PsykX Join Date: Jan 2011 Reputation: 0 Posts: 13	Worse than I thought. Should I create a new thread just for jerky scrolling ?

03-08-2012, 04:05 PM	#4
Mangr0v3 Join Date: Sep 2008 Reputation: 4237 Posts: 13,590	You can, but it would only be about the fifteenth such thread on the topic.

03-08-2012, 05:43 PM	#5
PsykX Join Date: Jan 2011 Reputation: 0 Posts: 13	Maybe Steam listens to suggestions when they are posted 15 times in the forums ? :P But seriously, I wish I could go fix it myself in the code at this point. Don’t they have support lines or something that we can saturate so they sort out these two issues finally ?

03-08-2012, 07:39 PM	#6
Mangr0v3 Join Date: Sep 2008 Reputation: 4237 Posts: 13,590	You can try Steam Support, but after the level of complaining over the earlier part of the past just-under-two-years, I don't see how they don't know.

03-10-2012, 12:04 PM	#10
jeanlain Join Date: Mar 2010 Reputation: 242 Posts: 935	Isn't scrolling managed by application code (that is, not webkit)?

03-10-2012, 04:11 PM	#11
Mangr0v3 Join Date: Sep 2008 Reputation: 4237 Posts: 13,590	I don't know, logically they would just throw in a webkit view and that's it, like PsykX alluded to. Although last I heard most of Steam was actually WebKit, so they probably rebuilt things.... I don't know.

03-22-2012, 04:05 PM	#12
Lord_I666 Join Date: Aug 2011 Reputation: 0 Posts: 35	buy a copy of Windows. speaking from a strictly Sys admin of several companies standpoint- Macs are technologically inferior machines. I intend no offence, but Linux and Windows are much more powerful. and Im not just some casual user who is spewing sh*t out of my mouth, I have a lifetime of experiences and several degrees in computer sciences