03-23-2012, 01:48 PM
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Monitor AMD APU temperatures
So I recently got my new APU "system" up and running, and I'm hainvg trouble getting any accurate temperature readings. Anyone know any programs out there that shows ~proper readings?
CoreTemp doesn't seem to work right (like when I used it for my Phenom II X6). I mean, 6 to 13*C? Or sometimes -2*C?! Come on! HWMonitor seems to work but... It shows the individual core temperatures to be really low - like CoreTemp. There is no "CPU" temperature reading. Under the "Temperatures" I have the following TMPIN0: Value:27*C min:26*C max:27*C I'm guessing that should be the CPU temp reading? TMPIN1: Value:96*C Min:93*C Max:96*C I don't know what this is. It's not the Southbridge (it does get warm though), and of the power phases or anything...I've looked around the interwebs and people are also getting this randomly high temperature reading, but don't where it's coming from. TMPIN2: Value:14*C Min:13*C Max:33*C System specs: AMD A6-3670K (@ 2.8GHz at this moment...bumped the multi up one, all voltages currently on Default/Auto) Gigabyte GA-A75-D3H GPU: Using the APU's HD 3650D 8GB (2 X 4GB) Corsiar Vengeance 1600 @ 7-8-7-21-1T 1.5V Some Hitachi Deskstar 320GB HDD (used it to mess with OC'ing and run BF3 on my other system) Corsair TX 850W PSU (from my Phenom II system as the Antec PSU for this unit is not here yet) HAF 912 (200mm fan at the top and bottom-front, 120mm rear, 140mm side) Windows 7 Ult x64 GPU Driver: 12.2 w/ CAP1 Chipsetset, LAN, Audio, USB Drivers: All the latest ones from Gigabyte BIOS version: F4 (the newest is F5a, but it's a Beta BIOS for some of the upcoming low power A6/A8's) Last edited by -RASCAL-: 03-23-2012 at 03:58 PM. |
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03-23-2012, 08:39 PM
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Try a different program first.
Also look what all it says under Hardware Monitor (or some wording along those lines) within your BIOS screen. Now the BIOS readings should be generally low, due to system being idle. But most systems u will never see idle below 25*C range, unless u live in a freezer. Either your temperature sensors on the motherboard are faulty, or CoreTemp hasn't been updated to work with AMD APU, or simply doesn't work well with your particular motherboard model. Try another programs to cross-check everything, like RealTemp or HWMonitor |
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03-23-2012, 09:09 PM
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AIDA64 may be a better option.. Last edited by borg_7_of_9: 03-23-2012 at 09:12 PM. |
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03-23-2012, 10:15 PM
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Ok thanks; I'll give those a try.
I'm using HWMonitor now and the TMPIN0 lines up with the system temperature in easytune6. TEMPIN2 lines up with CPU temperature in EasyTune6, but that seems a bit low. Room temp is around 18*C so no way it's 17*C idling. I also just did some 3D Mark11 Benching and the score seems to be very low compared to others with the A6-3650! The lowest in 3D Mark's record is P922, and I'm way under that. The CPU is currently clocked at 3GHz with the GPU portion at 450MHz. The RAM is running at 800MHz, so 1GB of shared memory @ 800MHz. Other: http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2737159 Mine: http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3025356;jses...lrunn5xl4zsttc I know people say 3D Mark11 is "useless" but... EDIT: Dammit! the A6-3670K is unsupported by RealTemp. So close, yet so far... Last edited by -RASCAL-: 03-23-2012 at 10:18 PM. |
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03-23-2012, 10:58 PM
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Faster memory helps with APU's as it affects the graphics speed. Buy 1866MHz memory.
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03-23-2012, 11:31 PM
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I kinda figured RealTemp would not work, but wasn't 100% sure.
Then try latest versions of any of these... AIDI64 Extreme Edition CPU-Z HWMonitor CoreTemp Piriform SPECCY If you run 64-bit OS, try using the separate 64-bit .EXE, if a program provides both. When u go to download CoreTemp, if you click Other Downloads, those downloads are the program, but u must manually extract it to a folder of your choice. Remove or Uninstall the old version before using a newer version. If you want to run an installer for CoreTemp, click the Download: Core Temp 1.0 RC3 button on their site. I know u said u tried CoreTemp, but u didn't say which version, so hopefully u were just using an older one that didn't have correct support for AMD A-series (APU). Last edited by Bad_Motha: 03-23-2012 at 11:35 PM. |
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03-24-2012, 07:50 AM
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Last time Real Temp was updated was in January so thats kinda iffy with newer stuff.
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03-24-2012, 08:41 AM
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The AMD APU CPU & FM1 socket have been out for a while now though, u'd think RealTemp (or others) would be able to provide support for those platforms.
But perhaps RealTemp just doesn't care to support AMD platforms. Like BORG stated, it pretty much only works with Intel platforms. Needless to say, there are plenty of alternative programs out there to use. |
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03-24-2012, 01:05 PM
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Core Temp seems more accurate to some degree then HWM does from what im seeing
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03-24-2012, 02:18 PM
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03-25-2012, 07:08 PM
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Ok, so far I've tried AIDA64, CoreTemp, HWMonitor, and HWiNFo64 (all being the the latest versions). AIDA64 and HWiNFO64 shows the CPU temp as ~98*C. This can't be true as the heatsink is cool to the touch.
The heatsink is mounted correctly...you can't really mess that up. The temperature readings are wonky as well for these programs. They do show the system temp to be 27*C ish though, so I guess that's correct. Sorry, the 3D Mark11 socre that I posed up is the chip at stock; here is the one where it's at 3GHz "CPU" and 480MHz "GPU." http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3026128;jses...b6zkb9suxiv7ti P827 score. 3D Mark11 seems to show the RAM frequency as 667MHz no matter the actual speed. The other scores could be using 2133MHz or something for all I know... It could be that Powerplay is kicking in and dropping the GPU clocks down. Looking at AIDA64, under the GPU details -> ATI Powerplay, State #1-#5 are all 275MHz or 200mHz, while state #6 is 480MHz. Refering the the link above, the GPU is clocked at 275MHz. By the way, CnQ, C6, C-sate, and any of the power saving features that I can see are turned off/disabled. Last edited by -RASCAL-: 03-26-2012 at 01:14 AM. |
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03-25-2012, 10:55 PM
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What 3DMark11 "shows" doesn't really matter. Long as your scores are competitive for the specs you're running. As in not being too low to a similarly compared system. And as long as it displays the right spec of your CPU, GPU, amount of RAM and OS. The rest of specs shown in text are basically irrelevant.
I don't understand why AMD doesn't have features within their own programs for temp monitoring, with programs like AMD System Monitor, Overdrive and Fusion; programs made/released by AMD for AMD users. I guess u'll have to use whatever Gigabyte has available for such an app, that is suitable for your model motherboard <[On this page, be sure to select OS to ensure you're not downloading an incompatible program] Least til others catch up and update their programs to properly read sensors on AMD APU based setups. Last edited by Bad_Motha: 03-25-2012 at 10:59 PM. |
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03-26-2012, 04:49 PM
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I probably need to contact Gigabyte.
The room temperature is about 18*C / 19*C (thermometer in the room) BIOS shows system temperature as 24*C. When the system is idling in the BIOS, it states the CPU temperature is 21*C / 22*C. EasyTune6 is giving the same system temperature, but the CPU temperature is just like the other programs; 10*C / 11*C. I'm not too worried about the scores; I'm worried if it's not performing as expected. Hope this trouble is not from a defective motherboard or APU.... EDIT: Fired up 3D Mark Vanatage to install it (compare my score to the A6-3650 scores found in reviews) , and in EasyTune6, the CPU temperature jumped up to ~25*C...even 33*C. As soon as install is complete, it's lowered down to 18*C, and slowly dropping back. EDIT2: While running 3D Mark Vanatge, the CPU temp (looking at Easytune) has jumped up to even 44*C. I guess this goes to show that the idle temperatures or low load temperatures are wonky, but moderate to high loads it works fine. The scores are aling when comparing the results from stock clocked A6-3650 and A8-3850's (since my 3670K is at 3.2GHz CPU and 500MHz GPU). 1600MHz 1866MHz with other RAM timings and frequencies were considered. http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8...torresults.png Looking through more A6-3650 reivews, the 3D Mark 11 scores for the Performance preset is in the P770 - P800 (if this matters anymore). I was probably making myself worry by looking at the P900 / P1000+ that others obtained. :P Last edited by -RASCAL-: 03-26-2012 at 05:47 PM. |
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03-26-2012, 06:41 PM
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03-26-2012, 09:18 PM
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System Monitor is pretty much indentical to the "Performance" tab in Task Manager...with a different skin. AMD Overdrive is like EasyTune; goes down to the low 10's but will jump up into the 20-30s if there is some amount of load. Again, the ambient room temperature is 18 / 19*C. http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/3188/tempmonitor.png I've already sent an e-mail to Gigabyte about this, and let's see what they have to say... APU is performing in-line, so that's some good news. Temperature monitoring is just a little odd. Like while I'm typing this, EasyTune and AMD Overdrive is showing the temperature to be 8-10*C Last edited by -RASCAL-: 03-26-2012 at 09:59 PM. |
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