Sanity Check

relxek · 03-29-2012, 03:24 PM

So, anybody else even the slightest bit upset that entering month 6 after the game's release and the game is still barely playable? I wonder what flavor koolaid the fan-boy and apologist cronies drank.

I may not be so bothered by all of this if I had been informed that I was pre-ordering a game that had barely entered beta testing, but I honestly don't recall paying $40 to beta test this game.

I only hope that some poor gamer who heard good things about the first game will stop and read this forum and reviews from us who were burned by this, because the game is still sold on Steam as if it is an honest to science finished product.

--relxek

GM_Pax · 03-29-2012, 04:11 PM

Quite upset here. Disgusted, really.

And indeed, I wish _I_ had come to these forums before buying SotS2 ... purely on the strength of SotS1.

Biffa999 · 03-30-2012, 05:18 AM

They should give sots1(steamkey) for free to anyone who preordered sots2.

Dunno why Steam keep selling it as a complete game still.

galestorm · 03-30-2012, 08:15 AM

would be nice if game actully worked with out crashing also more discrptions of what things are when you are making ships be nice.

bananafish2828 · 03-30-2012, 09:17 AM

or anybody who bot it at full price afterwards.

Zloth · 03-30-2012, 08:39 PM

Upset? No. That's just way too long to stay mad.

It sounds like a lot more of the game is actually starting to work now, though. 4th of July for being ready to go, perhaps?

relxek · 03-31-2012, 08:56 AM

And here come the apologists. So, I ask again, what flavor koolaid did you drink?

I thought I had paid for a finished product 6 months ago. Instead what I got was a beta test, 6 months in and barely playable and still missing features.

3-10 minute turn time is unacceptable on a 3 player map after 200 turns.(yes that is including doing a periodic quit/reload of the game).

You are seriously going to tell me that you find waiting and having to constantly do a memory dump by reloading the game fun?

Seriously kids, don't buy Sword of the Stars 2 unless you are sadomasochistic, and that is cool if you are, but don't drink the Kerberose Productions koolaid.

System Specs:
Windows 7 64bit
Intel i7-960 (3.2ghz)
12GB DDR3 RAM
Nvidia GeForce GTX 570

SwiftBlizz · 03-31-2012, 10:30 AM

Really? Have you tried to reinstall the game? How about your drivers are they all up to date? If all this checks out then maybe you have something which garbles up your PC.

relxek · 03-31-2012, 12:07 PM

Drivers are up to date.

I have removed it, cleared out leftover artifacts left in the steamapps\common\sword of the stars ii\ directory, and reinstalled. I have done this every patch Kerberose puts out just to be disappointed yet again.

Highly unlikely it is anything on my system. Other resource intensive games like Skyrim will run without a hiccup. Hell, I've even had 2 Eve online clients open and Fallout New Vegas or Civilization 5 (using the DX11 option) running all at the same time without any problems.(Gotta keep occupied while gate camps are slow or carrier drops are on standby.

)

System Specs:
Windows 7 64bit
Intel i7-960 (3.2ghz)
12GB DDR3 RAM
Nvidia GeForce GTX 570

SFCShadow · 03-31-2012, 06:02 PM

Yeah it's not your system or setup or anything like that, nope.

Course my system is well below your specs and yet after 200ish turns on a map like that, it takes 20-30seconds to process each turn for me. Guess I'm just lucky, course I've got over 325 hours of play time and unless I play on the sotsverse map, my turn times or screen transitions are fine especially in comparison to yours! LOL On the sotsverse map btw, after around 200ish turns, I may approach 1.5-2minute processing times, which is rather long, however not very amazing system on one of the largest maps in the game so I expect it to run on the slowish side, especially prior to the optimization pass.

Sucks to be you.

Oh btw, system specs:
Windows 7 Pro 64bit
AMD Phenom Quad-Core 9950 Black Edition
4 Gig DDR2 RAM
ATI HD 4670 1 Gig

leggosboy · 03-31-2012, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFCShadow

Yeah it's not your system or setup or anything like that, nope.

Yeah, and even if it was not, we all know how stable and solid this "game" has always been. Even though it it STILL not what was supposed to be released back in October.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFCShadow

Sucks to be you.

Is this is why you got to be one of the main suckup-er "mods" for the SOTS II Paradox forum? Because this is not really an impressive display of maturity or good judgement on your part.

I understand why you have to personally attack the poster since the "game" is STILL not what was supposed to be released back in October.

Sucks for you that you can not warn/ban the poster for pointing out what a failure this launch was and still is like you do on the Paradox boards.

SFCShadow · 03-31-2012, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leggosboy

Yeah, and even if it was not, we all know how stable and solid this "game" has always been. Even though it it STILL not what was supposed to be released back in October.

Is this is why you got to be one of the main suckup-er "mods" for the SOTS II Paradox forum? Because this is not really an impressive display of maturity or good judgement on your part.

I understand why you have to personally attack the poster since the "game" is STILL not what was supposed to be released back in October.

Sucks for you that you can not warn/ban the poster for pointing out what a failure this launch was and still is like you do on the Paradox boards.

You mad? Need a bottle or pacifier, I can loan you one from my grand daughter if you like.

Seeing as you returned your game and got a refund, what do you care or know about the game?

Next.

leggosboy · 03-31-2012, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFCShadow

You mad?

You must have missed your reply to the OP in which you mindlessly insulted them for being unhappy over STILL not having the promised "game" they bought in October.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFCShadow

Need a bottle or pacifier, I can loan you one from my grand daughter if you like.

Again, you are showing why you were such an excellent choice for moderation with that comment there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFCShadow

Seeing as you returned your game and got a refund, what do you care or know about the game?

Some people bought more than one copy. But yes, I did get one refund and not the other despite doing them both at the same time. The refund process was done half-way, just like everything else with this product so far.

leggosboy · 03-31-2012, 06:25 PM

When the devs themselves admit that about 15% of the content for the game is still not there, insulting folks about how it must be their computers is pretty stupid.

When the devs themselves admit that about 15% of the content for the game is still not there, insulting folks about how we are STILL waiting for something that was supposed to be done back in October is pretty stupid.

I simply can not simplify any further than that.

SFCShadow · 03-31-2012, 06:28 PM

Aww....does Leggo need a hug?

03-29-2012, 03:24 PM	#1
relxek Join Date: Mar 2012 Reputation: 24 Posts: 64	Sanity Check So, anybody else even the slightest bit upset that entering month 6 after the game's release and the game is still barely playable? I wonder what flavor koolaid the fan-boy and apologist cronies drank. I may not be so bothered by all of this if I had been informed that I was pre-ordering a game that had barely entered beta testing, but I honestly don't recall paying $40 to beta test this game. I only hope that some poor gamer who heard good things about the first game will stop and read this forum and reviews from us who were burned by this, because the game is still sold on Steam as if it is an honest to science finished product. --relxek Last edited by relxek: 03-29-2012 at 05:42 PM.

03-30-2012, 08:15 AM	#4
galestorm Join Date: May 2010 Reputation: 7 Posts: 155	would be nice would be nice if game actully worked with out crashing also more discrptions of what things are when you are making ships be nice.

03-31-2012, 06:02 PM	#10
SFCShadow Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 5 Posts: 20	Yeah it's not your system or setup or anything like that, nope. Course my system is well below your specs and yet after 200ish turns on a map like that, it takes 20-30seconds to process each turn for me. Guess I'm just lucky, course I've got over 325 hours of play time and unless I play on the sotsverse map, my turn times or screen transitions are fine especially in comparison to yours! LOL On the sotsverse map btw, after around 200ish turns, I may approach 1.5-2minute processing times, which is rather long, however not very amazing system on one of the largest maps in the game so I expect it to run on the slowish side, especially prior to the optimization pass. Sucks to be you. Oh btw, system specs: Windows 7 Pro 64bit AMD Phenom Quad-Core 9950 Black Edition 4 Gig DDR2 RAM ATI HD 4670 1 Gig Last edited by SFCShadow: 03-31-2012 at 06:04 PM.

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03-29-2012, 04:11 PM	#2
GM_Pax Join Date: Aug 2010 Reputation: 21 Posts: 147	Quite upset here. Disgusted, really. And indeed, I wish _I_ had come to these forums before buying SotS2 ... purely on the strength of SotS1.

03-30-2012, 05:18 AM	#3
Biffa999 Join Date: Nov 2009 Reputation: 14 Posts: 133	They should give sots1(steamkey) for free to anyone who preordered sots2. Dunno why Steam keep selling it as a complete game still.

03-30-2012, 09:17 AM	#5
bananafish2828 Join Date: Sep 2010 Reputation: 4 Posts: 24	or anybody who bot it at full price afterwards.

03-30-2012, 08:39 PM	#6
Zloth Join Date: Apr 2009 Reputation: 86 Posts: 564	Upset? No. That's just way too long to stay mad. It sounds like a lot more of the game is actually starting to work now, though. 4th of July for being ready to go, perhaps?

03-31-2012, 08:56 AM	#7
relxek Join Date: Mar 2012 Reputation: 24 Posts: 64	And here come the apologists. So, I ask again, what flavor koolaid did you drink? I thought I had paid for a finished product 6 months ago. Instead what I got was a beta test, 6 months in and barely playable and still missing features. 3-10 minute turn time is unacceptable on a 3 player map after 200 turns.(yes that is including doing a periodic quit/reload of the game). You are seriously going to tell me that you find waiting and having to constantly do a memory dump by reloading the game fun? Seriously kids, don't buy Sword of the Stars 2 unless you are sadomasochistic, and that is cool if you are, but don't drink the Kerberose Productions koolaid. System Specs: Windows 7 64bit Intel i7-960 (3.2ghz) 12GB DDR3 RAM Nvidia GeForce GTX 570

03-31-2012, 10:30 AM	#8
SwiftBlizz Join Date: Jul 2010 Reputation: 8 Posts: 241	Really? Have you tried to reinstall the game? How about your drivers are they all up to date? If all this checks out then maybe you have something which garbles up your PC.

03-31-2012, 12:07 PM	#9
relxek Join Date: Mar 2012 Reputation: 24 Posts: 64	Drivers are up to date. I have removed it, cleared out leftover artifacts left in the steamapps\common\sword of the stars ii\ directory, and reinstalled. I have done this every patch Kerberose puts out just to be disappointed yet again. Highly unlikely it is anything on my system. Other resource intensive games like Skyrim will run without a hiccup. Hell, I've even had 2 Eve online clients open and Fallout New Vegas or Civilization 5 (using the DX11 option) running all at the same time without any problems.(Gotta keep occupied while gate camps are slow or carrier drops are on standby. ) System Specs: Windows 7 64bit Intel i7-960 (3.2ghz) 12GB DDR3 RAM Nvidia GeForce GTX 570

03-31-2012, 06:25 PM	#14
leggosboy Join Date: Jan 2009 Reputation: 35 Posts: 470	When the devs themselves admit that about 15% of the content for the game is still not there, insulting folks about how it must be their computers is pretty stupid. When the devs themselves admit that about 15% of the content for the game is still not there, insulting folks about how we are STILL waiting for something that was supposed to be done back in October is pretty stupid. I simply can not simplify any further than that.

03-31-2012, 06:28 PM	#15
SFCShadow Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 5 Posts: 20	Aww....does Leggo need a hug?