[QUESTION] Regarding the Steam Trade Section

C r o s b y · 04-08-2012, 07:49 PM

I'm not complaining but I'm just curious as to why we are not allowed to post in the steam trade section regarding trading Battlefield 3 for tf2 items. I made a topic and it got closed, but as said before, I'm just wondering why it is not allowed. Thanks

Matt · 04-08-2012, 08:47 PM

How can you trade Battlefield 3? It's not trade-able. It's not even available on Steam. That's why your thread is closed. The trading forum is for STEAM TRADING.

C r o s b y · 04-08-2012, 09:03 PM

I have BF3 on my Origin account, but I don't have a computer that can handle BF3 so I'm trying to give my Origin account away for a bud. I don't even have Origin installed actually.

And if mine got closed because BF3 isn't on Steam, then shouldn't the people that post they're buying something with Paypal, or selling something with Paypal be closed too? I mean I'm trying to trade it for a bud, which is a part of TF2, which is a part of Steam. So if the people with Paypal are Steam trading, then I'm Steam trading.

Matt · 04-08-2012, 09:32 PM

You asked a question about your thread, and I answered it. If you see other threads that you feel are against the rules then you may report them. No backseat moderating, please. Let the moderators do the moderating.

C r o s b y · 04-08-2012, 11:56 PM

Alright, well thanks. But can you answer the question about I asked in my post before this one? I'm asking this to better understand the way you guys moderate so I know what and what not to do. I'm not trying to pester so please don't take it that way. And you won't have to worry about backseat moderating or reporting because I don't care enough about what other people post. I just try to handle my own business.

KRosen · 04-09-2012, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C r o s b y

Alright, well thanks. But can you answer the question about I asked in my post before this one? I'm asking this to better understand the way you guys moderate so I know what and what not to do. I'm not trying to pester so please don't take it that way. And you won't have to worry about backseat moderating or reporting because I don't care enough about what other people post. I just try to handle my own business.

steam trading is when you use 'steamtrade' to... well, trade. its fully protected, there is no middleman bs, and it doesnt break the TOS like trying to sell an origin account (or steam account for that matter) does. (which btw, if EA catches you doing this, they will just delete your account - so i hope you used a different name for origin than you did the forums here)

its not a hard concept - don't try to do anything illegal/that breaks the TOS, and keep the steam trades forum for actual steam trades only. if you can't drag it into the box for trading consideration, its not a steamtrade.

C r o s b y · 04-11-2012, 12:56 AM

I've been trying to figure out a definite answer from one of the Moderators, and I haven't received an answer yet. So I will post my question here.

Are we allowed to post if we are buying or selling an item via PayPal, Moneypak, etc. Websites like those.

I got a couple threads locked because I posted saying how I was selling Battlefield 3 for TF2 items and I don't quite understand what the problem is. That's why I'm asking about PayPal, because people do it all the time, and if that's allowed, then I don't see why there's a problem with BF3.

Fish-E · 04-11-2012, 01:01 AM

I don't really visit the trade forums so I'm not 100% certain of the rules, so take this with a pinch of salt.

Anyway I believe you can trade steam items (games, coupons, tf2 items etc) for money but if you get scammed you won't receive any support as you traded outside of the system. What you cannot do is make trades that don't involve steam items at all. For example, trading an origin account (which is almost certainly against their T&C) for paypal money.

C r o s b y · 04-11-2012, 01:11 AM

Yeah I see what you're saying. I'm not trying to sell it for PayPal though. I'm just looking for a Team Fortress 2 Earbud. The Moderator claimed that I was not Steam Trading... If I'm asking for a trade involving a Steam game's, item, is that not still Steam Trade? I don't get it but it's making my attempt to sell a lot longer than it should.

TeKraken · 04-11-2012, 01:30 AM

BF3 is not a steam item.

C r o s b y · 04-11-2012, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeKraken

BF3 is not a steam item.

I'm aware of that but it shouldn't matter if I'm trying to get steam items.

ChrisW · 04-11-2012, 09:36 AM

There is a difference between trading and selling. You are not allowed to sell games, especially on the trading forums.

bluz74 · 04-11-2012, 09:44 AM

What should I not trade for?

Do not trade for anything that cannot be added into the trade window within Steam.

Steam Trading Policy

Satoru · 04-11-2012, 09:44 AM

Do not trade for things that are not supported by the trade interface

Just because others are doing it does not mean you should

C r o s b y · 04-11-2012, 12:48 PM

I've been selling TF2 items for PayPal for months, and have posted in the Steam Trade section about it with no problems. And I know it says that about not trading outside the window but I'm not gonna be scamming anyone... Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen a rule or anything saying don't post about BF3 or PayPal in the Steam Trade section.

Rep Thread 1 - http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=12549.0

Rep Thread 2 - http://sourceop.com/modules.php?name...065373#1065373

http://steamcommunity.com/id/icrosbyi/

04-08-2012, 08:47 PM	#2
Matt Volunteer Moderator - I was on TV! Join Date: Jun 2003 Reputation: 4657 Posts: 22,881	How can you trade Battlefield 3? It's not trade-able. It's not even available on Steam. That's why your thread is closed. The trading forum is for STEAM TRADING. __________________ Steam Forums and Steam Discussions Moderator Have Fun! Forum Rules: View

04-08-2012, 09:03 PM	#3
C r o s b y Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 39 Posts: 50	I have BF3 on my Origin account, but I don't have a computer that can handle BF3 so I'm trying to give my Origin account away for a bud. I don't even have Origin installed actually. And if mine got closed because BF3 isn't on Steam, then shouldn't the people that post they're buying something with Paypal, or selling something with Paypal be closed too? I mean I'm trying to trade it for a bud, which is a part of TF2, which is a part of Steam. So if the people with Paypal are Steam trading, then I'm Steam trading. Last edited by C r o s b y: 04-08-2012 at 09:13 PM.

04-08-2012, 09:32 PM	#4
Matt Volunteer Moderator - I was on TV! Join Date: Jun 2003 Reputation: 4657 Posts: 22,881	You asked a question about your thread, and I answered it. If you see other threads that you feel are against the rules then you may report them. No backseat moderating, please. Let the moderators do the moderating. __________________ Steam Forums and Steam Discussions Moderator Have Fun! Forum Rules: View

04-11-2012, 12:56 AM	#7
C r o s b y Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 39 Posts: 50	Question regarding Steam Trade I've been trying to figure out a definite answer from one of the Moderators, and I haven't received an answer yet. So I will post my question here. Are we allowed to post if we are buying or selling an item via PayPal, Moneypak, etc. Websites like those. I got a couple threads locked because I posted saying how I was selling Battlefield 3 for TF2 items and I don't quite understand what the problem is. That's why I'm asking about PayPal, because people do it all the time, and if that's allowed, then I don't see why there's a problem with BF3. Last edited by C r o s b y: 04-11-2012 at 01:03 AM.

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04-08-2012, 07:49 PM	#1
C r o s b y Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 39 Posts: 50	[QUESTION] Regarding the Steam Trade Section I'm not complaining but I'm just curious as to why we are not allowed to post in the steam trade section regarding trading Battlefield 3 for tf2 items. I made a topic and it got closed, but as said before, I'm just wondering why it is not allowed. Thanks Last edited by C r o s b y: 04-08-2012 at 08:01 PM.

04-08-2012, 11:56 PM	#5
C r o s b y Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 39 Posts: 50	Alright, well thanks. But can you answer the question about I asked in my post before this one? I'm asking this to better understand the way you guys moderate so I know what and what not to do. I'm not trying to pester so please don't take it that way. And you won't have to worry about backseat moderating or reporting because I don't care enough about what other people post. I just try to handle my own business.

04-11-2012, 01:01 AM	#8
Fish-E Volunteer Moderator Join Date: Dec 2008 Reputation: 4231 Posts: 4,784	I don't really visit the trade forums so I'm not 100% certain of the rules, so take this with a pinch of salt. Anyway I believe you can trade steam items (games, coupons, tf2 items etc) for money but if you get scammed you won't receive any support as you traded outside of the system. What you cannot do is make trades that don't involve steam items at all. For example, trading an origin account (which is almost certainly against their T&C) for paypal money.

04-11-2012, 01:11 AM	#9
C r o s b y Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 39 Posts: 50	Yeah I see what you're saying. I'm not trying to sell it for PayPal though. I'm just looking for a Team Fortress 2 Earbud. The Moderator claimed that I was not Steam Trading... If I'm asking for a trade involving a Steam game's, item, is that not still Steam Trade? I don't get it but it's making my attempt to sell a lot longer than it should.

04-11-2012, 01:30 AM	#10
TeKraken Join Date: Nov 2011 Reputation: 4620 Posts: 6,068	BF3 is not a steam item.

04-11-2012, 09:36 AM	#12
ChrisW Join Date: Nov 2009 Reputation: 942 Posts: 3,076	There is a difference between trading and selling. You are not allowed to sell games, especially on the trading forums.

04-11-2012, 09:44 AM	#13
bluz74 Join Date: Aug 2009 Reputation: 33718 Posts: 5,585	What should I not trade for? Do not trade for anything that cannot be added into the trade window within Steam. Steam Trading Policy

04-11-2012, 09:44 AM	#14
Satoru Join Date: Jul 2008 Reputation: 3151 Posts: 9,088	Do not trade for things that are not supported by the trade interface Just because others are doing it does not mean you should

04-11-2012, 12:48 PM	#15
C r o s b y Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 39 Posts: 50	I've been selling TF2 items for PayPal for months, and have posted in the Steam Trade section about it with no problems. And I know it says that about not trading outside the window but I'm not gonna be scamming anyone... Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen a rule or anything saying don't post about BF3 or PayPal in the Steam Trade section. Rep Thread 1 - http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=12549.0 Rep Thread 2 - http://sourceop.com/modules.php?name...065373#1065373 http://steamcommunity.com/id/icrosbyi/