Go Back   Steam Users' Forums > Steam Discussions > General Steam Discussion

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-11-2012, 05:22 PM   #1
jakeportnoy
 
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Reputation: 16
Posts: 68
Angry Rubles/Ukraine Money & AUD Currency - Not Fair

Yah, so I'm a little jarateed off.

I know that economy in Russia is f***ing terrible, but seriously, 50% cheaper than normal U.S price?

What's up with that? I would much rather pay $30 for Darksiders 2 or Max Payne 3..

And AUD currency, $100 for Modern Warfare 3? Are you kidding..

I'm a little mad over this, to the complete unfairness that some people have to work long hours to make $60 U.S or $100 AUD.. but in Russia, you make money a lot faster..

There is a guy on Steam, from Ukraine/Russia, and he buys games at their price, and sells for more.

**Note: These are not CD Keys.

Someone tell me, what up?
jakeportnoy is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 05:24 PM   #2
Ruptur3
 
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Reputation: 137
Posts: 598
What's up? Hmm??

Publishers set the price.

Russia's economy is crap compared to the US and the UK.

Plus,why would anyone from Russia buy the games on steam for such a large chunk of their wages (if it was set to the prices of other countries like the US) when they could pirate it?

In Russia,they work longer hours for more money,since their pay is crap.You don't make "money faster". You invest more time in it and get what you invested.

Btw,you didn't have to tell us they weren't cd-keys,that part was obvious.

Last edited by Ruptur3: 04-11-2012 at 05:27 PM.
Ruptur3 is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 05:26 PM   #3
remoteman213
 
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Reputation: 10
Posts: 119
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakeportnoy View Post
There is a guy on Steam, from Ukraine/Russia, and he buys games at their price, and sells for more.
Who is this guy? I want cheap games!
remoteman213 is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 05:28 PM   #4
Satoru
 
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Reputation: 4325
Posts: 10,311
Please feel free to study economics, international trade laws, standard of living metrics, retail distribution pricing models, etc. Then you'll understand. Otherwise it's not really worth explaining since your world view is too simplistic.
Satoru is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 05:55 PM   #5
jakeportnoy
 
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Reputation: 16
Posts: 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satoru View Post
Please feel free to study economics, international trade laws, standard of living metrics, retail distribution pricing models, etc. Then you'll understand. Otherwise it's not really worth explaining since your world view is too simplistic.
Yah, well it ain't fair.

I know ecomony is bad there, but once a certain company sets a price, it must be universal to everyone.
jakeportnoy is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 05:57 PM   #6
Lansun
 
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Reputation: 0
Posts: 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakeportnoy View Post
Yah, well it ain't fair.

I know ecomony is bad there, but once a certain company sets a price, it must be universal to everyone.
How old are you? Are you seriously whining that a business isn't pricing their products in a "fair" manner?

You need a reality check
Lansun is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 06:18 PM   #7
Sly_Squash
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Reputation: 227
Posts: 834
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakeportnoy View Post
Yah, well it ain't fair.

I know ecomony is bad there, but once a certain company sets a price, it must be universal to everyone.
Why? Because in this particular case it proves disadvantageous to you?

I'm quite sure that there are many products in your local marketplace that are much cheaper than they are in others. For example, the movie theatre in my local area has ticket prices as low as $5. When I travel to Japan, tickets for the same movie in a lower quality theater are $30. How much are they for you? Would you insist to your local theater that you be charged $30, just to be "fair" to the people in Japan?

Not so antsy about normalizing prices when it doesn't swing in your favor, are you? Seems hypocritical to me.

In any event, regional pricing is a very tired argument that is raised with almost every single steam sale and every single day. It always ends the same: publishers can and will charge what they want, where they want, because they can, because there is not any universal law saying they can't.
Sly_Squash is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 06:24 PM   #8
HornetOne85
 
Join Date: May 2010
Reputation: 79
Posts: 710
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakeportnoy View Post
Yah, well it ain't fair.

I know ecomony is bad there, but once a certain company sets a price, it must be universal to everyone.
You're only seeing this because we now have online retails like Steam and we can see what the prices are at the other side of the globe.

But actually this has never been true. Be it computer hardware, books, music cd, etc etc anything that's distributed worldwide. Prices have always been different in different region.
HornetOne85 is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 06:27 PM   #9
Bilateralrope
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Reputation: 176
Posts: 973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruptur3 View Post
Russia's economy is crap compared to the US and the UK.
That doesn't explain why countries like New Zealand, with a weaker economy than the US, get charged more than people in the US.

The only explanation I can see is publishers are setting the price at whatever they think will be most profitable. If that means charging Russia less because that's the only way to sell copies, they charge Russia less.
If that means charging a country more than anyone else, because they know the copies will still sell, that country gets charged more.

Fairness has nothing to do with it.
Bilateralrope is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 06:28 PM   #10
Bilateralrope
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Reputation: 176
Posts: 973
Quote:
Originally Posted by HornetOne85 View Post
But actually this has never been true. Be it computer hardware, books, music cd, etc etc anything that's distributed worldwide. Prices have always been different in different region.
At least physical goods have an obvious reason to be more expensive in some places, it costs more to ship them there.

Digital copies don't have shipping costs.
Bilateralrope is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 06:30 PM   #11
Worstluck
 
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Reputation: 116
Posts: 571
I have read that Russian games prices have less to do with economical reasons and more to do with piracy. They are set so low to combat piracy along with the economic reasons. I believe piracy is much larger problem in Russia than most of Europe. The publishers/developers would like to get at least some money, instead of none.
Worstluck is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 06:38 PM   #12
nunschaku
 
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Reputation: 145
Posts: 269
Wages in Russia are lower. Wages in Australia are higher.
nunschaku is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 06:40 PM   #13
bu11dog
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Reputation: 4
Posts: 45
LOL @ comapring world metrics, distribution models, local market metrics and trade laws when discussing digital distribution of a product - if I buy from the same store why should I pay more or less than anyone else? The Japanese cinema example is ridiculous, if I'm in the same cinema and in the same queue then I expect the same ticket price as everyone else there - simple really.

I haven't seen anyone justify the difference, and most tellingly I've never seen a publisher comment on the price difference because they know themselves that it can't be justified by anything but greed - they think they can so they will try. Don't blame them at all for trying, but I'd love one of them to even try to explain the reasons.
bu11dog is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 07:07 PM   #14
Sly_Squash
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Reputation: 227
Posts: 834
Quote:
Originally Posted by bu11dog View Post
LOL @ comapring world metrics, distribution models, local market metrics and trade laws when discussing digital distribution of a product - if I buy from the same store why should I pay more or less than anyone else? The Japanese cinema example is ridiculous, if I'm in the same cinema and in the same queue then I expect the same ticket price as everyone else there - simple really.
With regional pricing like steam, you don't even have to be in the same cinema. If you're in the same COUNTRY, you still pay the same price.

Your counterargument is ridiculous.

Anyway, I used the example because the movie that gets distributed to different theaters (which in turn charge different prices) could easily stem from digital distribution models (one could envision each theater "legally downloading" the movie they are permitted to screen).
Sly_Squash is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 07:20 PM   #15
bu11dog
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Reputation: 4
Posts: 45
One could envision a lot of things, doesn't change the facts - we're buying the same product from the same store, it doesn't cost any more to send me the data than it does to send it to you or any other steam user, it's the same product purchased from the same store but priced differently - not a difficult concept to grasp. Comparing a digitally distributed product to any real world products or service is nonsensical and irrelevant.

You can try to factor in whatever you like, the facts above won't change.
bu11dog is offline  
Closed Thread

Go Back   Steam Users' Forums > Steam Discussions > General Steam Discussion


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Site Content Copyright Valve Corporation 1998-2012, All Rights Reserved.