Ivy Bridge speculation thread (temperature, price drop)

[Baron_Fel]

Originally Posted by TheGreatGazoo

Where do you get those numbers from??

Comparing the i5 2500 with the IB equivalent i5 3550 gives;

13,7W at load and 3,3W at idle...

Anandtech. And '~' means 'about'.

[dosbox]

Originally Posted by TheGreatGazoo

Where do you get those numbers from??

Comparing the i5 2500 with the IB equivalent i5 3550 gives;

13,7W at load and 3,3W at idle...

Look at the graphs on the techreport link posted two above yours, albeit for the 3770K vs 2600K.

Originally Posted by ericlee2k

If history repeats itself, Intel will not drop SB prices and IB will be priced similarly to SB

No "if" needed - prices are already available. The 3770K is slightly cheaper than the 2600K was, but the 3770 is $20 less than the 2600. A similar gap exists as you go down the range.

[TheGreatGazoo]

Originally Posted by Baron_Fel

Anandtech. And '~' means 'about'.

I don't need a lesson in notation, trust me. I wouldn't consider a 45% deviation a very good approximation though...

The reason I asked was so that I didn't have to waste time guessing where the numbers came from.

[snak3y3z1001]

If one is to go purchase a laptop for light gaming, would they go for a SB or wait for IVY?

[Baron_Fel]

Originally Posted by snak3y3z1001

If one is to go purchase a laptop for light gaming, would they go for a SB or wait for IVY?

Ivy, its main strengths are in its mobile chips. Goes double if you aren't getting a discrete GPU.

[dosbox]

Originally Posted by snak3y3z1001

If one is to go purchase a laptop for light gaming, would they go for a SB or wait for IVY?

Frankly? Neither. Intel's graphics drivers are terrible IMO.

[sfade]

Originally Posted by snak3y3z1001

If one is to go purchase a laptop for light gaming, would they go for a SB or wait for IVY?

Mobile is where IB actually makes some sort of impact. Otherwise, there's nothing particularly compelling about it.

Originally Posted by rotNdude

This is a die shrink release with a better GPU on the die.

Exactly.

I still stick with my statement that I'd take the higher clock on air cooling with a SB instead of basically requiring an entire water cooling setup just to break even with an IB. Maybe later revisions can change that, but for now it is what it is.

[madpistol]

Is it just me, or is IB not that much of a step up. More like a small step forward with a giant helping of graphics power.

They lost me with IB. What's the point?

Also, if graphics are the real reason for the "tick+", why is the older generation Llano APU still faster in games? That's... ummmmm... embarrassing.

[Baron_Fel]

Originally Posted by sfade

Exactly.

I still stick with my statement that I'd take the higher clock on air cooling with a SB instead of basically requiring an entire water cooling setup just to break even with an IB. Maybe later revisions can change that, but for now it is what it is.

For the same price, Id rather get more IPC and lower power consumption.

you don't need water cooling to 'break even'. A 4.5GHz Ivy is going to beat a 4.8GHz Sandy.

[sfade]

Originally Posted by Baron_Fel

For the same price, Id rather get more IPC and lower power consumption.

you don't need water cooling to 'break even'. A 4.5GHz Ivy is going to beat a 4.8GHz Sandy.

This is where I just shake my head, shrug, and walk away. If you don't read the linked material, there's no point in banging my head on a brick wall.

[borg_7_of_9]

Originally Posted by TheGreatGazoo

Hey

There's a lot of rumours circulating about the IB temperature/voltage being higher than expected (especially when OCing) at the moment. Then Intel decided to lower the price out of nowhere, even though competition is minimal.

Obviously this is all speculation but do you have any thoughts on the topic?


Temperature/voltage/OCing;

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/466...w/index11.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=164099

http://forums.aria.co.uk/showthread....w*-56K-WARNING


Price drop;

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/23564/...hed/index.html

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26...-before-launch

http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-cu...nch/15557.html

looks like ttown pulled there temp's perhaps the hsf was incorrectly mounted/not secure..

I did see them earlier though..

IMO there cooling failed or the processor had some very bad temp sensors considering heat output is related to Wattage..

The price drop may be a sign of good yields on the smaller die.

IB doesn't look that bad IMO I may give it a go on Z68

[cr1515]

How about this:

http://www.overclockers.com/ivy-bridge-temperatures

using TIM under the IHS causing high temps

[sfade]

Originally Posted by cr1515

How about this:

http://www.overclockers.com/ivy-bridge-temperatures

using TIM under the IHS causing high temps

Thanks for linking that, explains quite a bit and I hadn't seen a tear down of the chip yet.

I wonder why they would make the decision to move away from the far superior results of solder in favor of TIM paste that doesn't perform nearly as well. Doesn't make sense, and basically ruins the chip for OC.

[TeKraken]

Originally Posted by sfade

T
I wonder why they would make the decision to move away from the far superior results of solder in favor of TIM paste that doesn't perform nearly as well. Doesn't make sense, and basically ruins the chip for OC.

couple of reasons from the comments on that link that make sense to me, I couldn't confirm which it is though.

1, Cost
2, The chips shipped for review were engineering samples,
3, Or, as you say, to limit the OC so people buy the 6 core chips.

[Baron_Fel]

$250 for the 3570K? wtf newegg...