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Old 05-04-2012, 05:33 AM   #1
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Loch-n-load change.

The Loch-n-Load
Level 10 Grenade Launcher
On hit: Reload 1 grenade
+10% Firing speed
+25% projectile speed

-60% clip size
Launched bombs shatter on surfaces

What do you think? I think that this change would be less annoying (Sick of being 1 shot at point blank range, I play spy.)

I also think that this change would make more sense with the name "Loch-n-Load"

This would also reward players for direct hits by removing a downside.

So what are your thoughts on this change?

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Old 05-04-2012, 07:40 AM   #2
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overpowered.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:44 AM   #3
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no rollers is pretty damn crippling even if you have godly pipe aim

i like
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:04 PM   #4
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That 10% damage is fairly vital for taking out soldiers and sentries in two shots on damage spread servers (not like it matters for sentries). I'm all for reloading an extra grenade on hit but I've heard many cries about how OP this would be. I'm not too sure myself, but they're out there.
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:24 PM   #5
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I say why the change the loch... AND JUST MAKE A WHOLE NEW LAUNCHER WITH THIS?
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:28 PM   #6
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overpowered.
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:44 PM   #7
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this.
How? It can no longer one shot and to even get more damage than what you can obtain with the GL you have to make 3 perfect hits. And it comes with no rollers...

Some people just have no clue on how this game works.
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:38 AM   #8
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Rollers aren't actually that important. They mostly get you kills that you didn't even plan to get to begin with and they mostly rely on people that aren't paying attention.

Stickies do a similar job at suppressive spam and you can wield both guns.

This idea is basically a widowmaker for grenadelaunchers and that is absolutely intolerable (especially considering the grenades are also easier to aim with the speed bonus)
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Old 05-05-2012, 01:31 AM   #9
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this......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj7-QXDpkR4
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Old 05-05-2012, 05:27 AM   #10
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i don't understand why people keep up with the reload on hit, long shots your already in the middle of a reload animation, hell perhaps your already done reloading before it hits them if it was a extreamely long shot.

what i mean is if your fighting on mid range, you shoot your last nade at them, 0.3s later it hits them and you're already done with half of the original reload that you were doing, what happens now, 1 shot? or continue that 0.3s to get both shots?

anyways, i'm not at all for something that reloads on a succesfull hit
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Old 05-05-2012, 11:23 AM   #11
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No seriously, just make it a new grenade launcher.


This is a bad change, and I don't like it.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:57 AM   #12
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The Loch-n-Load
Level 10 Grenade Launcher
On hit: Reload 1 grenade
+10% Firing speed
+25% projectile speed

-60% clip size
Launched bombs shatter on surfaces

What do you think? I think that this change would be less annoying (Sick of being 1 shot at point blank range, I play spy.)

I also think that this change would make more sense with the name "Loch-n-Load"

This would also reward players for direct hits by removing a downside.

So what are your thoughts on this change?
On hit- reload 1 grenade

You could do a hell of a lot of damage to a team pushing the cart/an engie nest/annihilate heavies easily.

I'd love it, but that's only because I play demo more than any other class. I don't think that the demo should necessarily get a higher DPS than he already has.


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Rollers aren't actually that important. They mostly get you kills that you didn't even plan to get to begin with and they mostly rely on people that aren't paying attention.
Spamming chokepoints, and they're incredibly useful when you have some idea of where the enemy is, but not a direct line of sight.

Oh- and I'll also sometimes fire them a little bit past the enemy and watch with glee as they backpedal into the rollers.
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Old 05-07-2012, 02:40 PM   #13
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It's not actually THAT OP. It just rewards direct hits even more.
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Old 05-07-2012, 02:47 PM   #14
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It would definitely help against Heavies.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:38 PM   #15
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overpowered.
Against heavies... me gusta.
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