Does FXAA/SMAA injector trigger VAC bans?

RiouTheCat · 05-20-2012, 11:39 PM

Question in title.

Stryker7990 · 05-20-2012, 11:47 PM

Runs at least as good as FXAA, and looks much better. ... The injector does not seem to play nicely with other overlays. ..... The injector is not supposed to be used for any kind of cheating but it is definitely powerful enough to be abused.

I would say its an Enhancement tool as it says above, I would'nt use it just in case

tepescovir · 05-21-2012, 12:54 AM

it mixed views at the moment. the fxaa injector has been around for a while using nvidia inspector, but there are a number of people complaining that they recently got banned in the last wave of bf3 punkbuster bans. So i wouldnt force it on at the moment

Smile286 · 05-21-2012, 01:24 AM

It's better to not use it.

New WHQL-release of nVidia drivers which fully supports FXAA are coming soon.

bha2597 · 05-21-2012, 04:52 AM

Use at your own risk. Think if that is worth.

Satoru · 05-21-2012, 07:31 AM

Aside from the VAC issues where any directx DLL modification carries a good 95% chance of a ban.

1) FXAA is in the Nvidia beta drivers right now, I highly recommend you try that FIRST.

2) Any DLL modification is HIGHLY DANGEROUS. DLLs are basically EXE. Replacing a directx DLL means that the system can execute any dangerous code within it. Do you REALLY trust whoever is making this DLL? DLL modifications fall under the 'do not download shady executables from the internet' bucket as far as I'm concerned.

Again do you really know WHICH FXAA dll you're downloading. Every idiot and their grandmother is making one of these things. Which one did your friend download? Is the top hit on Google legit, or a keylogger? You really have no idea.

Stryker7990 · 05-21-2012, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiouTheCat

Question in title.

The best think is to enclose your computer specs and mention the problem and you should get the best advice,it seems you may need a better graphics card or too !!. what size monitor are you using ?

tepescovir · 05-22-2012, 12:56 AM

fxaa is in the nvidia drivers, but its not in the bf3 profile so you have to force it for bf3 which isnt recommended atm.

XSS · 05-22-2012, 01:15 AM

I've asked Valve about this very topic (FXAA/SMAA injectors) but they refused to say anything, except they keep on repeating that they don't support 3rd party software. Well FU, is it so hard to say yes or no? Then i didn't want to risking my VAC status so i've deleted the injectors. Luckily soon after, AMD released MLAA 2.0 so i didn't bother investigating it further. It's still a crappy attitude from Valve though, not all games have good FSAA support, most these days don't even have it due to crappy porting and then you're not even sure if you can compensate it with these injectors and risk a VAC ban. Bah. At least now NVIDIA and AMD both have post-process method of edge filtering. Still not perfect since you can't chose but at least something...

Satoru · 05-24-2012, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSS

I've asked Valve about this very topic (FXAA/SMAA injectors) but they refused to say anything, except they keep on repeating that they don't support 3rd party software. Well FU, is it so hard to say yes or no? Then i didn't want to risking my VAC status so i've deleted the injectors. Luckily soon after, AMD released MLAA 2.0 so i didn't bother investigating it further. It's still a crappy attitude from Valve though, not all games have good FSAA support, most these days don't even have it due to crappy porting and then you're not even sure if you can compensate it with these injectors and risk a VAC ban. Bah. At least now NVIDIA and AMD both have post-process method of edge filtering. Still not perfect since you can't chose but at least something...

The problem is that ALL injectors are effectively DLL files that will run under the system permissions. This is basically on par with 'downloading shady stuff from the internet' since the DLL can effectively do ANYTHING IT WANTS, install a keylogger, ftp data from your computer, make your computer a zombie node, etc. It does not matter that the 'effect' is to make your game look pretty/dark/sharper/blurry/bloomy/etc. The dll executes code, for which you have ZERO provenance for.

What if I said this

"Hey there's an EXE file that enables FXAA on your game"

Most people would correctly refuse. However you magically replace this with

"Hey there's a DLL file that enables FXAA on yoru game"

And for some reason people's brains turn off and they say it's ok!

Ettanin · 05-25-2012, 06:58 AM

For any kind of whatsoever injection counts: Use at your own risk.

Do not cry in forums when you get vac banned.

vowvoonrsq · 05-25-2012, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smile286

It's better to not use it.

New WHQL-release of nVidia drivers which fully supports FXAA are coming soon.

The WHQL drivers were released on 5/22, and the beta from April worked too. There's no need for hacks.

§W- · 05-25-2012, 07:42 AM

Valve can not check the signatures of every single piece of third party code, so they can not say whether or not any portion of it will have the same signature of a known hack, or if a portion of the code is shared between a piece of third party software and a hack and if the signature for that piece of code is listed as a hack in VACs database.

If any part of a piece of code has the same signature as a hack it will trigger a VAC ban, this is unlikely but it is not entirely impossible.

Satoru · 05-25-2012, 08:22 AM

For directx components you can do a whitelist of accepted dlls. Then anything not matching the whitelist gets banned.

Shinbusho · 05-30-2012, 11:07 AM

It shouldn't but when I did use it(SMAA injector), I used it only on non VAC games. I also restarted my computer when I wanted to play a VAC game.

05-20-2012, 11:39 PM	#1
RiouTheCat Join Date: May 2012 Reputation: 32 Posts: 173	Does FXAA/SMAA injector trigger VAC bans? Question in title.

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Stryker7990 Join Date: Jan 2010 Reputation: 17 Posts: 47	Runs at least as good as FXAA, and looks much better. ... The injector does not seem to play nicely with other overlays. ..... The injector is not supposed to be used for any kind of cheating but it is definitely powerful enough to be abused. I would say its an Enhancement tool as it says above, I would'nt use it just in case Last edited by Stryker7990: 05-20-2012 at 11:50 PM. Reason: forgot to put some more info in.

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05-21-2012, 12:54 AM	#3
tepescovir Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 12 Posts: 428	it mixed views at the moment. the fxaa injector has been around for a while using nvidia inspector, but there are a number of people complaining that they recently got banned in the last wave of bf3 punkbuster bans. So i wouldnt force it on at the moment

05-21-2012, 01:24 AM	#4
Smile286 Join Date: Oct 2011 Reputation: 142 Posts: 1,614	It's better to not use it. New WHQL-release of nVidia drivers which fully supports FXAA are coming soon.

05-21-2012, 04:52 AM	#5
bha2597 Join Date: Aug 2011 Reputation: 2 Posts: 325	Use at your own risk. Think if that is worth.

05-21-2012, 07:31 AM	#6
Satoru Join Date: Jul 2008 Reputation: 3146 Posts: 9,062	Aside from the VAC issues where any directx DLL modification carries a good 95% chance of a ban. 1) FXAA is in the Nvidia beta drivers right now, I highly recommend you try that FIRST. 2) Any DLL modification is HIGHLY DANGEROUS. DLLs are basically EXE. Replacing a directx DLL means that the system can execute any dangerous code within it. Do you REALLY trust whoever is making this DLL? DLL modifications fall under the 'do not download shady executables from the internet' bucket as far as I'm concerned. Again do you really know WHICH FXAA dll you're downloading. Every idiot and their grandmother is making one of these things. Which one did your friend download? Is the top hit on Google legit, or a keylogger? You really have no idea.

05-22-2012, 12:56 AM	#8
tepescovir Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 12 Posts: 428	fxaa is in the nvidia drivers, but its not in the bf3 profile so you have to force it for bf3 which isnt recommended atm.

05-22-2012, 01:15 AM	#9
XSS Join Date: Jan 2005 Reputation: 88 Posts: 958	I've asked Valve about this very topic (FXAA/SMAA injectors) but they refused to say anything, except they keep on repeating that they don't support 3rd party software. Well FU, is it so hard to say yes or no? Then i didn't want to risking my VAC status so i've deleted the injectors. Luckily soon after, AMD released MLAA 2.0 so i didn't bother investigating it further. It's still a crappy attitude from Valve though, not all games have good FSAA support, most these days don't even have it due to crappy porting and then you're not even sure if you can compensate it with these injectors and risk a VAC ban. Bah. At least now NVIDIA and AMD both have post-process method of edge filtering. Still not perfect since you can't chose but at least something...

05-25-2012, 06:58 AM	#11
Ettanin Join Date: Jan 2010 Reputation: 115 Posts: 683	For any kind of whatsoever injection counts: Use at your own risk. Do not cry in forums when you get vac banned.

05-25-2012, 07:42 AM	#13
§W- Join Date: Jul 2003 Reputation: 423 Posts: 2,966	Valve can not check the signatures of every single piece of third party code, so they can not say whether or not any portion of it will have the same signature of a known hack, or if a portion of the code is shared between a piece of third party software and a hack and if the signature for that piece of code is listed as a hack in VACs database. If any part of a piece of code has the same signature as a hack it will trigger a VAC ban, this is unlikely but it is not entirely impossible.

05-25-2012, 08:22 AM	#14
Satoru Join Date: Jul 2008 Reputation: 3146 Posts: 9,062	For directx components you can do a whitelist of accepted dlls. Then anything not matching the whitelist gets banned.

05-30-2012, 11:07 AM	#15
Shinbusho Join Date: Oct 2008 Reputation: 14 Posts: 299	It shouldn't but when I did use it(SMAA injector), I used it only on non VAC games. I also restarted my computer when I wanted to play a VAC game.