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Old 05-30-2012, 03:46 AM   #181
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The fact of the matter is, no-one knows the ratio of cheaters to legit players that have been kicked are. Could be more cheaters than innocents, could be the other way round.

However, If you were to use the indication of false reports to bans (consider all the times you've been hackused even), that would probably give you a rough idea and I'd guess not pretty. This data is available to a select few, perhaps xifon/tvdw/Tom is one of those people. Regardless, I get the impression that if 10 cheaters were kicked for every 100 legit players, that would be deemed acceptable by the author. Non-MW3SA users are just collateral damage.

From where I'm sitting, I've been kicked one too many times (on the rare occasion I do well and even sometimes when I don't wtf), and I'm barely above average with a 1.59 kd on TDM. In my books, this is more annoying than being confronted by an aimbotter – I can choose to leave that game/don a riot shield/record a video and report. With MW3SA that simple decision is not mine to make.
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:55 AM   #182
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Whilst I sympathize with the non-cheating people who get kicked. Sometimes a user joins who has so much position lag and lag comp that they make the game unplayable. The sort of player you bounce a dozen hitmarkers off, they scoot behind a wall and come out and kill you with 1-2 bullets before they even appear on your screen. They may not actually be cheating, but the net affect is similar to god mode, wallhack and aimbot combined, so why not kick them? They're ruining a game that you and others were playing from the start by unconsciously cheating.

Funny how everything comes back to P2P being and leading to MW3SA over-use and hackusations.
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:22 AM   #183
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What about those who only kick hackers/cheaters?

Also, I couldn't care less about someone's win/lose ratio, lol.
problem is it`s not just cheaters.
hackers are programers
cheaters just use the tools hackers make.
point is mw3sa is a tool made by a hacker to kick cheaters but is abused
and being that it acesses a javascript file not with the program. but on it`s site
that makes it more unsafe to use.jscripts can be very bad.could be used to gain access
to a computer and erase it or many other things
it does not come from a reputiable source and could contain just about anything
accessing info on our computers ect.not a good thing it would give access to lots of
people`s computers.
This is made by a hacker so trust him with your computer
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:38 AM   #184
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You are missing the plot in a big way and spouting nonsense.

Any computer with a resonable security can stop access to material not intended.

You on the other hand are a troll and probably a cheat yourself!!!

The tool has been around since MW2, adapted for MW3 and I have yet to see any reports regarding its security and mis-use to collect information.

If you have the evidence, then post links. If not, don't troll forums were your knowledge is poor at best and down right blatant at worse
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:54 AM   #185
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AMI SirMisAlot

You are missing the plot in a big way and spouting nonsense.

Any computer with a resonable security can stop access to material not intended.

You on the other hand are a troll and probably a cheat yourself!!!

The tool has been around since MW2, adapted for MW3 and I have yet to see any reports regarding its security and mis-use to collect information.

If you have the evidence, then post links. If not, don't troll forums were your knowledge is poor at best and down right blatant at worse
i stated it could be used or didnt you see that
cheat no.dont need to.the game should be left as is no one person should have the ability to punnish another player for anything other than cheating
the tool is bad and can be used for worse
its simple
as i stated it COULD BE USED THAT WAY.not everyone has the best security on their computer.thats how i stay in biz fixing computers for people that were to stupid to realize
what they were doing.gamers alike
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:00 PM   #186
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Played a handful of dom games last night with my team (it's one of the few gametypes that we stand a chance against cheaters) and got kicked from two of them. Both games had blatant aimbotters in (typical LMG with impact - BC will be getting the reports and video in due course), we narrowly lost one but the last game on Seatown we were about 20 points from winning when we were ALL kicked. This isn't a one-off either, it happens regularly.

It'll fall on deaf ears to many but there is no doubt whatsoever that MW3SA is not just abused by sore losers, but also no-skill cheating scumbags.

Bravo xifon. The sooner the revised reporting tool is approved and active and you come to your senses and switch off MW3SA the better.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:03 PM   #187
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I got members who scream hacker the second they killed its annoying we all know in game lag and lag comp are working against us its not the other guys fault he saw you 1st its lag comp or lag period.but someone with the tool will kick him because someone else yelled wallhack or aimbot.and not mention getting reported because the lag comp is on your side once or twice and you do well in a game.its really bull but we all keep playin an prayin for somthing good to happen.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:09 PM   #188
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Every problem comes back to P2P somehow.
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:10 AM   #189
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Every problem comes back to P2P somehow.
I had the problem of "being kicked for being good" worse on Dedicated Servers. Too many immature server admins that don't like being beat. So if someone is better than them they kick them.

One server on Black Ops I got banned from had a KDR limit of 2.0. If you consistently got above 2.0 they kick/banned you. WTF? It started to get hard to find games. As more and more people get a hold of this tool it is going to get worse and worse. Too many immature idiots with this tool.

Last night in MW3 we had a guy in an opposing party tell us straight out that if we were winning and he was host he would use this tool to kick us. Just straight out told us. Morons... Luckily I got host and they rage quit like the babies they were.

Reporting tool = Yes
Kicking tool = No
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:50 AM   #190
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I had the problem of "being kicked for being good" worse on Dedicated Servers. Too many immature server admins that don't like being beat. So if someone is better than them they kick them.

One server on Black Ops I got banned from had a KDR limit of 2.0. If you consistently got above 2.0 they kick/banned you. WTF? It started to get hard to find games. As more and more people get a hold of this tool it is going to get worse and worse. Too many immature idiots with this tool.

Last night in MW3 we had a guy in an opposing party tell us straight out that if we were winning and he was host he would use this tool to kick us. Just straight out told us. Morons... Luckily I got host and they rage quit like the babies they were.

Reporting tool = Yes
Kicking tool = No
Well put auptyk! +1 here!


THIS IS BY FAR WORST THAN THE REAL HACKERS OUT THERE!

... not real fun when your kicked/banned a dozen time a day playing a game!

It disappoints me that IW or VAC has done NOTHING to stop this!!!

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Old 06-02-2012, 03:51 PM   #191
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I as a victim of this tool twice today, and yesterday we had a guy on my team kicking everyone on the opposing team "To get his MOAB" he said.

To the creator of this tool, please remove the kick feature. It is clearly not being used for its intended function.

I do not wish to be kicked for playing the game well.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:23 AM   #192
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I make a few kills and some bozo calls me a cheater, seconds later major lag and a disconnect.

You are better then me so you must be cheating! Seriously some people don't even understand UAV's. You must be cheating else how could you see me behind that wall.

My K/D ratio is 1.68 I believe. Nothing spectecular. I get called a cheater atleast once every 3 matches or I'm not doing well I think.

Anyways thanks for the noob MW3SA tool. I've seen a few cheaters myself I really hate it. Like 30 headshots without dying within 3minutes. But since when is making a few kills without dying being a cheater? 9 out 10 times when someone calls a player a cheater they are infect not cheating.
people are really stupid they think they more suppior then over others if they kill you its good and they have skils when you kil them your a wallhacker or aimbotter it has been in the game since the fist came out people are complaining whining little es they always think that they are pro's and we are the cons while they hacking self and when we make a kill we are hackers thats why console is so mutch better. no little bags that kick you they should take out the whole vote kick things people are abusing it the admin who wallhacks gets in the and kick you for hacking while he is the one hacking

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Old 06-03-2012, 03:31 AM   #193
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This tool should be put on the hack list and players should be banned for using it on p2p
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:34 AM   #194
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This tool should be put on the hack list and players should be banned for using it on p2p
This tool will never be put on the ban list because it does not interfere with any of the game files. Bottom line the user has every right to control who connects to his or her machine. I don't use it very often but I actually like this tool to get rid of tools



ps @eightball I see you finally were able to find the proper topic to post in.

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Old 06-03-2012, 03:38 AM   #195
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you want to be admin get your own server.
why come on p2p using hack tool to kick ...if it was just hackers being kicked this tool would be fine the trouble is players get kicked for using weapons you dont like or camping
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