Frosty Update, survival map

DIMEDROLL · 07-13-2012, 09:13 AM

Frosty Remake is a reimagining of the popular survival map Frosty by Lycosa. The map has been redesigned for a new type of gameplay, you will no longer be able to hole up behind turrets. Try to complete it on Hard difficulty.

Screenshots:
https://plus.google.com/photos/10412...35519635417313

Download:
https://sites.google.com/site/swarma.../frosty-remake

Original map:
http://swarmarmory.com/maps?action=v...urvival+Frosty

Changelog:
v 1.5
- bloom fix
- added random "button press" objectives to prevent players from sitting in one place
- added markers for objectives
- blocked some of stuckable areas
v 1.6
- fixed "Nuclear detonation" continues to appear after all drones are killed
- fixed areas that block player's view
- fixed parasites falling from the sky and parasites appear too close near marines
- allowed mortars for all difficulties and added 3 more mortars
v 1.7
- made some buildings semitransparent not to block player view
- added a bridge to allow bots to enter the map
- removed 3 mortars because they cause lags
- changed light_environment angle
v 1.8
- removed commander sounds
v 1.9
- blocked lots of stuckable areas
- made more semitransparent buildings not to block player view
- added ammo, grenades, stim
- removed flamers, chainsaws, sentry pickups
- put all items into crates, added boxes and crates
- decreased ammount of aliens and spawn speed
- fixed aliens spawning on marine's head and blocking marine
- added sprites for hacking computers
- added lighting
- enabled bots to enter the map, added pushing trigger

goodone · 07-17-2012, 12:11 AM

rn't these changes a bit too much for this map?

u r changing the gameplay, by forcing players to move - i do not know if that's for best or worse, since the survival part is tough as it is.
by changing gameplay, u r changing the category of this map, kicking it out of survival.
i would praise the intention, only if u rly balance the new gameplay with map's attributes, which may b impossible and tough work, since, well, the map was intended for survival turtle tactics, and only doable that way.
why do u need 2 remove original author's voice?

DIMEDROLL · 07-17-2012, 12:32 AM

I can release it separately not to replace the original map, so you'll be able to play both versions without having to install\uninstall them.

- IMHO it's better.
- OK. Agreed. What type is it then?
- Agreed that it's too hard to win, even on Hard. I think I need to decrease the number of aliens...
- The voice is very annoying and unpleasant to hear if you listen it on high quality headphones.

goodone · 07-17-2012, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIMEDROLL

- IMHO it's better.
- OK. Agreed. What type is it then?
- Agreed that it's too hard to win, even on Hard. I think I need to decrease the number of aliens...
- The voice is very annoying and unpleasant to hear if you listen it on high quality headphones.

i may agree on that.
it's some kind of a crossover, but it doesn't matter much, as we only do a single distinction - survival and not-survival.
balancing is the key, and it requires sooo much work. i hope u didn't decide doing it lightheartedly.
it's not like u hear him all the time, and still, since u r messing with other ppl's stuff, i guess some original content should b left alone.

Evildave · 07-17-2012, 03:22 AM

if you're working on bloomfixing and little errors,gameplaychanges go behond that. i noticed changes to the spawns on comm station too ( xp the mortars).

Mortars are fun, and they actually help you kill ♥♥♥♥ if you play smartand use their projectiles against the swarm itself. I'm not sure i agree with messing with the spawns too much because of that.

DIMEDROLL · 07-17-2012, 03:52 AM

Evildave, I've contacted map authors and got permission to modify their maps (Comm station, Midnight harvest and Frosty for now). I find changing gameplay fun and interesting. Especially if this is something new and yet unknown.

DIMEDROLL · 11-01-2012, 01:27 AM

Version 2.0 is out.
https://sites.google.com/site/swarma.../frosty-remake
v 2.0
- Changed gameplay. Now you don't need to kill 800 aliens. The goal now is to press 16 buttons around the map. Then move to another sector and open 2 doors. The faster you press all buttons the faster you finish the round.
- Removed more stuckable areas
- Removed some parasite spawners
- Added mortars

07-13-2012, 09:13 AM	#1
DIMEDROLL Join Date: Apr 2012 Reputation: 6 Posts: 207	Frosty Remake, survival map Frosty Remake is a reimagining of the popular survival map Frosty by Lycosa. The map has been redesigned for a new type of gameplay, you will no longer be able to hole up behind turrets. Try to complete it on Hard difficulty. Screenshots: https://plus.google.com/photos/10412...35519635417313 Download: https://sites.google.com/site/swarma.../frosty-remake Original map: http://swarmarmory.com/maps?action=v...urvival+Frosty Changelog: v 1.5 - bloom fix - added random "button press" objectives to prevent players from sitting in one place - added markers for objectives - blocked some of stuckable areas v 1.6 - fixed "Nuclear detonation" continues to appear after all drones are killed - fixed areas that block player's view - fixed parasites falling from the sky and parasites appear too close near marines - allowed mortars for all difficulties and added 3 more mortars v 1.7 - made some buildings semitransparent not to block player view - added a bridge to allow bots to enter the map - removed 3 mortars because they cause lags - changed light_environment angle v 1.8 - removed commander sounds v 1.9 - blocked lots of stuckable areas - made more semitransparent buildings not to block player view - added ammo, grenades, stim - removed flamers, chainsaws, sentry pickups - put all items into crates, added boxes and crates - decreased ammount of aliens and spawn speed - fixed aliens spawning on marine's head and blocking marine - added sprites for hacking computers - added lighting - enabled bots to enter the map, added pushing trigger Last edited by DIMEDROLL: 11-01-2012 at 01:23 AM. Reason: Released version 2.0

07-17-2012, 12:11 AM	#2
goodone Join Date: Jun 2011 Reputation: 24 Posts: 247	rn't these changes a bit too much for this map? u r changing the gameplay, by forcing players to move - i do not know if that's for best or worse, since the survival part is tough as it is. by changing gameplay, u r changing the category of this map, kicking it out of survival. i would praise the intention, only if u rly balance the new gameplay with map's attributes, which may b impossible and tough work, since, well, the map was intended for survival turtle tactics, and only doable that way. why do u need 2 remove original author's voice?

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07-17-2012, 12:32 AM	#3
DIMEDROLL Join Date: Apr 2012 Reputation: 6 Posts: 207	I can release it separately not to replace the original map, so you'll be able to play both versions without having to install\uninstall them. - IMHO it's better. - OK. Agreed. What type is it then? - Agreed that it's too hard to win, even on Hard. I think I need to decrease the number of aliens... - The voice is very annoying and unpleasant to hear if you listen it on high quality headphones.

07-17-2012, 03:22 AM	#5
Evildave Join Date: May 2011 Reputation: 14 Posts: 68	if you're working on bloomfixing and little errors,gameplaychanges go behond that. i noticed changes to the spawns on comm station too ( xp the mortars). Mortars are fun, and they actually help you kill ♥♥♥♥ if you play smartand use their projectiles against the swarm itself. I'm not sure i agree with messing with the spawns too much because of that.

07-17-2012, 03:52 AM	#6
DIMEDROLL Join Date: Apr 2012 Reputation: 6 Posts: 207	Evildave, I've contacted map authors and got permission to modify their maps (Comm station, Midnight harvest and Frosty for now). I find changing gameplay fun and interesting. Especially if this is something new and yet unknown.

11-01-2012, 01:27 AM	#7
DIMEDROLL Join Date: Apr 2012 Reputation: 6 Posts: 207	Version 2.0 is out. https://sites.google.com/site/swarma.../frosty-remake v 2.0 - Changed gameplay. Now you don't need to kill 800 aliens. The goal now is to press 16 buttons around the map. Then move to another sector and open 2 doors. The faster you press all buttons the faster you finish the round. - Removed more stuckable areas - Removed some parasite spawners - Added mortars