So apparently valve thought it would be a good idea to....

Jim E. Russel · 07-14-2012, 08:45 AM

Phase out and get rid of the use, safety, and availability of trading middlemen.
http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=18461.0

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Originally Posted by CanadianInvasion

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:

As of today, 12 July 2012, All SR Middlemen have made the decision to indefinitely suspend their services.

This decision has come at the realization that Valve is taking a stricter stance to specific types of trading. These include, but are not limited to sharking, and to a limited extent sharking. This decision has come about due to circumstances regarding middlemen some being TRADE BANNED for their actions. At this point, after discussing this point with multiple admins of the affiliated communities and SR, it has been determined that the best course of action to take is to temporarily suspend this practice for an indefinite amount of time until some resolution to this issue can be found. Any questions should be directed to a SteamRep Admin
Regards,
CanadianInvasion

Turns out it could mainly be due to paypal trading, which valve has taken a neutral stance on for a while.
http://forum.tf2wh.com/threads/psa-i...ded-trades.20/

Gedeon · 07-14-2012, 08:46 AM

... what did they even do?

VodkaGR · 07-14-2012, 08:47 AM

Nobody cares

Lurky! · 07-14-2012, 08:47 AM

Less trading, what a horrible thing.

Jim E. Russel · 07-14-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gedeon

... what did they even do?

Supposedly they now are against the use of middlemen, which are reputable people who hold onto your items during trades with... less reputable people. It's essentially a community made safety system for trading, and ever since the whole TF2WH bull♥♥♥♥ I guess they're taking a very strict stance on this.

Kaitostrike · 07-14-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by VodkaGR

Nobody cares

This phrase should be saved for when something is so monumentally worthless, that it is impossible for any sane human to care. However, this issue DOES have worth to those who trade, not even necessarily "traders". I suggest you save it for a more appropriate instance.

Like it or not, trading happens. Trading is good for everyone, even if at the end some deranged maniacs hoard and scheme. Nine out of ten times, this will be what happens whenever it is possible to trade in this kind of system where there exist not only rarities, but also items with limited quantities. Hating trading as a whole simply because some take advantaged of it is simply misguided.

I believe that this is a terrible idea. In various communities, middle men keep large, shady trades safe from manipulation, should the middle man themselves not be manipulated. While removing them might seem to fix a few issues, it will simply create many more to fill in their gap. If Valve can not differentiate between sharking and middle manning, then that is their own fault.

ASTORMIsComing · 07-14-2012, 08:49 AM

What decision..

The Medic · 07-14-2012, 08:53 AM

Can someone link us to this decision made by Valve please?

WeirdScout · 07-14-2012, 08:57 AM

The ♥♥♥♥? First TF2WH, an easy method to get certain items for normal players, and now middlemen, the people that make trading safer? I don't understand.

Cuttlefishes · 07-14-2012, 08:58 AM

Oh ♥♥♥♥, the rise of the scammers is upon us.

Captain M · 07-14-2012, 09:00 AM

Thank goodness. Get your black market for-money trades out of my TF2.

Jim E. Russel · 07-14-2012, 09:00 AM

I asked them for proof of this... as soon as they give me some I'll link it here for your convenience.

Kaitostrike · 07-14-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain M

Thank goodness. Get your black market for-money trades out of my TF2.

Removing middle men will not remove these "black market" transactions. It will simply make the scammer's job easier.

CarlZalph · 07-14-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain M

Thank goodness. Get your black market for-money trades out of my TF2.

I have a feeling Valve is going to move towards being able to transfer money through the Steam Wallet, and they want a cut.

Let's hope Valve doesn't pull a Blizzard.

ASTORMIsComing · 07-14-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlZalph

I have a feeling Valve is going to move towards being able to transfer money through the Steam Wallet, and they want a cut.

Let's hope Valve doesn't pull a Blizzard.

It's obvious they plan to, its all about money since Mann-co.

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WeirdScout Join Date: Aug 2011 Reputation: 84 Posts: 1,150	The ♥♥♥♥? First TF2WH, an easy method to get certain items for normal players, and now middlemen, the people that make trading safer? I don't understand.

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