Better assist recognition for the sandman.

CartoooN · 07-29-2012, 09:15 PM

Pretty much as the title says...

When an ally kills an enemy that's under a sandman stun or has recently been under one it barely ever gets an assist, when it really should. Jarate always gives assists unless a third player also gave a decent amount of damage, likewise items like the concheror track assists relatively well. But sandman stuns, arguably more useful as it stops the enemy altogether, rarely ever gets the assists it deserves.

Decent stuns aren't always that easy to pull off and can be real game changers. So they deserve some better recognition on the scoreboard.

Candiru · 07-29-2012, 09:26 PM

Who cares. The Sandman is a ♥♥♥♥♥ weapon with a game mechanic that sucks to play against and doesn't belong in TF2. If that's just one more reason to see it a little less, so much for the better.

DoubleGale · 07-29-2012, 09:26 PM

The entire assist system is broken as hell anyways.

xxxVJ300xxx · 07-29-2012, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candiru

The Sandman is amazing!

Fixed

spacethief · 07-29-2012, 09:45 PM

Also pyros should get assists for flaming arrows.

Chrisjd10 · 07-29-2012, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacethief

Also pyros should get assists for flaming arrows.

+1

And if you hit the scout with sandman you will likely kill him anyway.

Jetty · 07-30-2012, 01:34 AM

I'm in the 'Idon'tseewhyassistsareimportant' camp.

VenomousPastry · 07-30-2012, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetty

I'm in the 'Idon'tseewhyassistsareimportant' camp.

Well, assist are how medics get so many points.

Jetty · 07-30-2012, 01:38 AM

Okay, I retract that statement.

I'm in the 'Idon'tseewhypointsareimportant' camp.

And no, not control points, jackass.

TheHamz · 07-30-2012, 01:44 AM

I agree. There should be some tweaking in some assists.

The Wrap Assassin is better, since it does bleed damage, so that always seem to grant me the assist when the enemy is killed during the bleed time.

Do the same to the Sandman.

VenomousPastry · 07-30-2012, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetty

Okay, I retract that statement.

I'm in the 'Idon'tseewhypointsareimportant' camp.

And no, not control points, jackass.

You should include K/D ratio in that camp name.

DarkDXZ · 07-30-2012, 01:54 AM

Sandman is broken piece of utter bull♥♥♥♥ anyway...

lunarpking · 07-30-2012, 02:39 AM

I make someone laugh with my holiday punch, a guy kills him.

WHERE THE ♥♥♥♥ IS MY ASSIST?

dontango · 07-30-2012, 02:47 AM

Fun fact: You always get 1 (one) point if you stun someone with the sandman. It is listed under "bonus".
You do not get assists but stun 10 players and you have 10 points on the scoreboard, guaranteed.

spacethief · 07-30-2012, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetty

I'm in the 'Idon'tseewhyassistsareimportant' camp.

I just think it's nice when the game acknowledges your role in all the murders.

07-29-2012, 09:15 PM	#1
CartoooN Join Date: Jun 2012 Reputation: 4 Posts: 79	Better assist recognition for the sandman. Pretty much as the title says... When an ally kills an enemy that's under a sandman stun or has recently been under one it barely ever gets an assist, when it really should. Jarate always gives assists unless a third player also gave a decent amount of damage, likewise items like the concheror track assists relatively well. But sandman stuns, arguably more useful as it stops the enemy altogether, rarely ever gets the assists it deserves. Decent stuns aren't always that easy to pull off and can be real game changers. So they deserve some better recognition on the scoreboard. Last edited by CartoooN: 07-29-2012 at 09:18 PM.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

07-29-2012, 09:26 PM	#2
Candiru Join Date: Feb 2009 Reputation: 123 Posts: 2,125	Who cares. The Sandman is a ♥♥♥♥♥ weapon with a game mechanic that sucks to play against and doesn't belong in TF2. If that's just one more reason to see it a little less, so much for the better.

07-29-2012, 09:26 PM	#3
DoubleGale Join Date: Jul 2011 Reputation: 481 Posts: 1,310	The entire assist system is broken as hell anyways.

07-29-2012, 09:45 PM	#5
spacethief Join Date: Jul 2011 Reputation: 209 Posts: 1,253	Also pyros should get assists for flaming arrows.

07-30-2012, 01:34 AM	#7
Jetty Join Date: Sep 2009 Reputation: 103 Posts: 702	I'm in the 'Idon'tseewhyassistsareimportant' camp.

07-30-2012, 01:38 AM	#9
Jetty Join Date: Sep 2009 Reputation: 103 Posts: 702	Okay, I retract that statement. I'm in the 'Idon'tseewhypointsareimportant' camp. And no, not control points, jackass.

07-30-2012, 01:44 AM	#10
TheHamz Join Date: Jun 2010 Reputation: 147 Posts: 1,617	I agree. There should be some tweaking in some assists. The Wrap Assassin is better, since it does bleed damage, so that always seem to grant me the assist when the enemy is killed during the bleed time. Do the same to the Sandman.

07-30-2012, 01:54 AM	#12
DarkDXZ Join Date: Sep 2011 Reputation: 265 Posts: 2,291	Sandman is broken piece of utter bull♥♥♥♥ anyway...

07-30-2012, 02:39 AM	#13
lunarpking Join Date: Jan 2012 Reputation: 107 Posts: 1,055	I make someone laugh with my holiday punch, a guy kills him. WHERE THE ♥♥♥♥ IS MY ASSIST?

07-30-2012, 02:47 AM	#14
dontango Join Date: Sep 2011 Reputation: 172 Posts: 1,154	Fun fact: You always get 1 (one) point if you stun someone with the sandman. It is listed under "bonus". You do not get assists but stun 10 players and you have 10 points on the scoreboard, guaranteed.