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Old 08-28-2012, 11:34 AM   #1
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New Samsung 830 256GB SSD with minor problems...

Hi,

So I just bought this SSD about a week ago and have been using it for about 3 days so far. It seems really fast and all, but I have had a minor problem with it. I would be browsing the net normally then suddenly my mouse input would start lagging slowly then suddenly freeze. The computer would completely freeze and refuse to take any inputs from the mouse or keyboard.

I have checked for new FW updates via the Samsung SSD Magician Tool, but it seems I'm already running the latest firmware.

When I first got my SSD I installed a fresh copy of Widows 7 on it then followed the following guide to optimize Windows 7 accordingly: http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/s...-for-ssds-hdds

Now the guide mentions to use the native AMD SATA controllers instead of any third party ones, which I did in the first place, however I just went into the BIOS and completely disabled the other 3rd part controller a few mins ago since the computer just froze for the 2nd time in 3 days.

Any ideas on what I should try doing or what might be causing this? Should I try updating my BIOS or something?

This is my setup atm:
Motherboard: GA-890GPA-UD3H (rev. 2.0) @ BIOS Version FF
RAM: G. Skill Ripjaws 12GB DDR3 1600MHz PC3-12800 CL9
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T @ Stock 2.8GHz
GPU: EVGA GTX 460 SuperClocked 768MB
HDD: 1x Seagate 320GB 7200RPM, 1x Samsung F3 Spinpoint 1TB 7200RPM, 1x Samsung F4 Spinpoint 2TB 5400RPM
SSD: Samsung 830 256GB
PSU: Antec EarthWatts 750 Watts

Here is my CPU-Z Validation if needed: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2492852

Please let me know if anymore information is required. Thanks in advance.

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Old 08-28-2012, 11:44 AM   #2
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Just saying I had to return my Samsung 830 256GB earlier this week after 2 months of usage due to enormous lag and read/write errors. Even though people claim this is the best disk you can get now they have problems too. Yours might be broken too.

I used it on my Macbook Pro, full disk encrypted.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:49 AM   #3
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Just saying I had to return my Samsung 830 256GB earlier this week after 2 months of usage due to enormous lag and read/write errors. Even though people claim this is the best disk you can get now they have problems too. Yours might be broken too.

I used it on my Macbook Pro, full disk encrypted.
I bought mine on Newegg, so return for money isn't an option.

I don't have any encryption set up on mine, though. I'm running this on Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 with all updates installed.
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:08 PM   #4
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Are you getting any errors in your event viewer? (right click 'my computer'>manage>event viewer>custom views>admin)
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:19 PM   #5
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Are you getting any errors in your event viewer? (right click 'my computer'>manage>event viewer>custom views>admin)
Yeah there seem to be a lot of errors and warnings.

I exported it to a CSV file (can be opened in Excel) and uploaded it to my Dropbox here:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/40710/errors.csv
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:23 PM   #6
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Yeah there seem to be a lot of errors and warnings.

I exported it to a CSV file (can be opened in Excel) and uploaded it to my Dropbox here:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/40710/errors.csv
I wont be able to look at that for 12 hours, I dont have office stuff on my gaming PC lol.


Anything that coincides time wise with your problems?

Edit:
I followed that guide with my first SSD, i didnt bother after that for no other reason than I never really saw any gains in real use.

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Old 08-28-2012, 12:44 PM   #7
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I wont be able to look at that for 12 hours, I dont have office stuff on my gaming PC lol.


Anything that coincides time wise with your problems?

Edit:
I followed that guide with my first SSD, i didnt bother after that for no other reason than I never really saw any gains in real use.
Okay in that case, here are the latest 6 reports:
1: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/40710/1.PNG
2: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/40710/2.PNG
3: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/40710/3.PNG
4: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/40710/4.PNG
5: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/40710/5.PNG
6: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/40710/6.PNG
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:17 PM   #8
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You may have fiddled with some Windows Files when "optimizing" your SSD, or something happened during the OS DVD/ISO creation process. Have a look at these:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../gg241210.aspx

http://www.sevenforums.com/general-d...oot-cimv2.html
(2nd post)

http://www.limitededitioncomputers.c...or-Event-ID-10

Your other errors are caused by an expected shutdown - pressing the reset button or turning of the computer with the power button.

Your BIOS is pretty old as well - won't hurt to update that, too.

IMO, you don't need to really mess with "optimizations" ; install your SSD on the correct SATA port so it's controlled by the motherboard chipset...and set your SATA port(s) to AHCI mode. Enable TRIM if you want (if it's support by the SSD).
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Old 08-28-2012, 03:08 PM   #9
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You may have fiddled with some Windows Files when "optimizing" your SSD, or something happened during the OS DVD/ISO creation process. Have a look at these:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../gg241210.aspx

http://www.sevenforums.com/general-d...oot-cimv2.html
(2nd post)

http://www.limitededitioncomputers.c...or-Event-ID-10

Your other errors are caused by an expected shutdown - pressing the reset button or turning of the computer with the power button.

Your BIOS is pretty old as well - won't hurt to update that, too.

IMO, you don't need to really mess with "optimizations" ; install your SSD on the correct SATA port so it's controlled by the motherboard chipset...and set your SATA port(s) to AHCI mode. Enable TRIM if you want (if it's support by the SSD).
Alright thanks for that. I followed the fix in the 2nd post.

Anything else I should look at? Is there some type of test I can do on the SSD for read/write errors or something similar to make sure that the SSD isn't the one at fault here? Like I know for HDDs the manufacturer would have multiple testing tools to test for errors and such to find out if the source of a problem is from the HDD or not. Is there something similar for SSD?

Anything else you guys recommend doing?
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Old 08-28-2012, 03:22 PM   #10
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Alright thanks for that. I followed the fix in the 2nd post.

Anything else I should look at? Is there some type of test I can do on the SSD for read/write errors or something similar to make sure that the SSD isn't the one at fault here? Like I know for HDDs the manufacturer would have multiple testing tools to test for errors and such to find out if the source of a problem is from the HDD or not. Is there something similar for SSD?

Anything else you guys recommend doing?
Hmm the only program I've ever used to test one of my older SSD's was "SSDLife"

There is the Pro version which you have to pay for or can do a trial of it for 15 days I believe?

At the very bottom there is a "freeware" version, you can try that or try the pro trial and see if there is anything wrong. Sorry that I can't recommend anything else
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Old 08-28-2012, 03:33 PM   #11
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Well I updated the BIOS to the latest version. So we'll see if that fixes anything.

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Hmm the only program I've ever used to test one of my older SSD's was "SSDLife"

There is the Pro version which you have to pay for or can do a trial of it for 15 days I believe?

At the very bottom there is a "freeware" version, you can try that or try the pro trial and see if there is anything wrong. Sorry that I can't recommend anything else
How reputable is that program?
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Old 08-28-2012, 03:46 PM   #12
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Well I updated the BIOS to the latest version. So we'll see if that fixes anything.

How reputable is that program?
I've seen it recommended by some over at Tom's Hardware forums and Overclockers.net

I personally use it and have it installed for months now. If you're weary that it's a virus type program then by all means steer clear but I've used it myself and I have run multiple anti-virus programs(MSE/Malwarebytes) and it's never been registered as a virus.
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:08 PM   #13
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I've seen it recommended by some over at Tom's Hardware forums and Overclockers.net

I personally use it and have it installed for months now. If you're weary that it's a virus type program then by all means steer clear but I've used it myself and I have run multiple anti-virus programs(MSE/Malwarebytes) and it's never been registered as a virus.
Well I just tried it. Didn't give me too much info except the following:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/40710/SSDLife.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/40710/SSDLife_SMART.png

And guess what? My computer froze for the 3rd time!

Event manager still shows the following error every time it freezes and I restart:
Audit events have been dropped by the transport. 0
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:36 PM   #14
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When I first got my SSD I installed a fresh copy of Widows 7 on it then followed the following guide to optimize Windows 7 accordingly: http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/s...-for-ssds-hdds
Any guide that recommends blackviper as standard should be treated with suspicion.

Reinstall Windows without any of those "optimizations". Disable defragmention on the SSD. Then see if the problem persists.
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:01 PM   #15
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Any guide that recommends blackviper as standard should be treated with suspicion.

Reinstall Windows without any of those "optimizations". Disable defragmention on the SSD. Then see if the problem persists.
What's blackviper?

So you're telling me not to disable indexing, prefetch, superfetch, change the size of the page file, turn off hibernation, and limit the amount of system restore points to be made?

Those were the main things that I did including of course turning off defragmentation.
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