SPOILERS: Hyperion respawn machines

Raven1417 · 09-28-2012, 05:58 AM

So Hyperion own and run the respawn machines...so how exactly does Roland stay dead? He's clearly in the system because of Borderlands 1, and even if Hyperion can control who can and cannot come back to life then Jack wouldn't need the Warrior as they could remove the respawn details of every bandit, rebel, vault hunter etc.

How does it all work?

Shatter · 09-28-2012, 06:04 AM

The Atlas Corporation is trying to get revenge after being pushed off of Pandora during the Knoxx DLC. They are running an off-the-grid New-U station to allow the new characters to respawn, but given Roland's role in the downfall of Atlas, they chose not to include his DNA.

PS. All of this was made up.

numb3rnine · 09-28-2012, 06:05 AM

Dang... I never thought of that.... COME BACK ROLAND!!!!

Raven1417 · 09-28-2012, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shatter

The Atlas Corporation is trying to get revenge after being pushed off of Pandora during the Knoxx DLC. They are running an off-the-grid New-U station to allow the new characters to respawn, but given Roland's role in the downfall of Atlas, they chose not to include his DNA.

PS. All of this was made up.

It was a good read! Maybe apply for a job at Gearbox. What you wrote holds a lot more thought and consistency than the majority of the plot in Borderlands 2.

Mister M · 09-28-2012, 06:11 AM

*Cough* plot holes *cough, cough*

Or if that explanation does not satisfy you. Just look at all the real samples of real world big corporations like Sony, Microsoft, etc. or hell even EA, Ubisoft & such.

Don't they sometimes did or made decisions that just scream "what were they thinking" ? Decisions that not only counter productive in terms of customer loyalty, also seem obviously gong to cost them money over nothing?

Raven1417 · 09-28-2012, 08:27 AM

Bump for anyone with an explanation.

Spaceguy5 · 09-28-2012, 08:56 AM

This is the question that everyone asks (or at least, anyone that puts any thought at all into the plot).

I think the respawn machines are supposed to secretly be non-canon. No one acknowledges they exist. At all.

Buick72 · 09-28-2012, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceguy5

This is the question that everyone asks (or at least, anyone that puts any thought at all into the plot).

I think the respawn machines are supposed to secretly be non-canon. No one acknowledges they exist. At all.

*SPOILER* sort of....

Aside form Handsome jack paying you to "use one" by killing yourself later in the game....

If you think about it, how does anyone stay dead in the game? Well, enemies respawn.... maybe they use em too....

Remember Pluto · 09-28-2012, 11:21 AM

Think about it like this. When you kill off all the bandit in an arena do they stay dead? No. They come back. So the New-U station can be used to explain why they come back.

As for Roland you can say that Jack simply doesn't let him come back and as for Angel he maybe to heart broken or simply didn't care about her and only cared that she was a siren. The reason jack lets you respawn could be given that his personality makes him think that he is the best of the best and you are the only thing that challenges him so why would he want you dead. Also Jack thinks there is no way in hell you could ever kill him.

Darkwave · 09-28-2012, 11:31 AM

I smell DLC... ah just sayin

neelpos · 09-28-2012, 04:19 PM

For the first half of the game Jack is using you to destroy Sanctuary, so you keep respawning.
After that he wants to kill you himself.

As for Roland, you don't think Jack wouldn't take the original four vault hunters out of the system?

Freefall · 09-28-2012, 05:38 PM

Are you trying to imply that.... Borderlands isn't 100% realistic?

Dear god! you might be right.

Spaceguy5 · 09-28-2012, 05:50 PM

If they were canon, then Jack would respawn himself.

In the universe, NPCs just don't acknowledge they exist. The "Kill Yourself" quest seems to be the only exception.

09-28-2012, 05:58 AM	#1
Raven1417 Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 32 Posts: 385	SPOILERS: Hyperion respawn machines So Hyperion own and run the respawn machines...so how exactly does Roland stay dead? He's clearly in the system because of Borderlands 1, and even if Hyperion can control who can and cannot come back to life then Jack wouldn't need the Warrior as they could remove the respawn details of every bandit, rebel, vault hunter etc. How does it all work?

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09-28-2012, 06:04 AM	#2
Shatter Join Date: Jul 2012 Reputation: 73 Posts: 74	The Atlas Corporation is trying to get revenge after being pushed off of Pandora during the Knoxx DLC. They are running an off-the-grid New-U station to allow the new characters to respawn, but given Roland's role in the downfall of Atlas, they chose not to include his DNA. PS. All of this was made up.

09-28-2012, 06:05 AM	#3
numb3rnine Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 6 Posts: 189	Dang... I never thought of that.... COME BACK ROLAND!!!!

09-28-2012, 06:11 AM	#5
Mister M Join Date: Dec 2008 Reputation: 2 Posts: 98	Cough plot holes cough, cough Or if that explanation does not satisfy you. Just look at all the real samples of real world big corporations like Sony, Microsoft, etc. or hell even EA, Ubisoft & such. Don't they sometimes did or made decisions that just scream "what were they thinking" ? Decisions that not only counter productive in terms of customer loyalty, also seem obviously gong to cost them money over nothing?

09-28-2012, 08:27 AM	#6
Raven1417 Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 32 Posts: 385	Bump for anyone with an explanation.

09-28-2012, 08:56 AM	#7
Spaceguy5 Join Date: Jun 2009 Reputation: 641 Posts: 625	This is the question that everyone asks (or at least, anyone that puts any thought at all into the plot). I think the respawn machines are supposed to secretly be non-canon. No one acknowledges they exist. At all.

09-28-2012, 11:21 AM	#9
Remember Pluto Join Date: Jan 2012 Reputation: 134 Posts: 754	Think about it like this. When you kill off all the bandit in an arena do they stay dead? No. They come back. So the New-U station can be used to explain why they come back. As for Roland you can say that Jack simply doesn't let him come back and as for Angel he maybe to heart broken or simply didn't care about her and only cared that she was a siren. The reason jack lets you respawn could be given that his personality makes him think that he is the best of the best and you are the only thing that challenges him so why would he want you dead. Also Jack thinks there is no way in hell you could ever kill him.

09-28-2012, 11:31 AM	#10
Darkwave Join Date: Sep 2011 Reputation: 40 Posts: 247	I smell DLC... ah just sayin

09-28-2012, 04:19 PM	#11
neelpos Join Date: Dec 2007 Reputation: 450 Posts: 3,007	For the first half of the game Jack is using you to destroy Sanctuary, so you keep respawning. After that he wants to kill you himself. As for Roland, you don't think Jack wouldn't take the original four vault hunters out of the system?

09-28-2012, 05:38 PM	#12
Freefall Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 180 Posts: 462	Are you trying to imply that.... Borderlands isn't 100% realistic? Dear god! you might be right.

09-28-2012, 05:50 PM	#13
Spaceguy5 Join Date: Jun 2009 Reputation: 641 Posts: 625	If they were canon, then Jack would respawn himself. In the universe, NPCs just don't acknowledge they exist. The "Kill Yourself" quest seems to be the only exception.