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Old 12-19-2012, 08:48 PM   #1
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The Engineer is a FOO

I was going though extra credits videos when I came across this...

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode...cing-for-skill

It dawned on me that the majority engineer class to a degree is one big FOO. Think about it, all of us Engineer or not benifit from the engineer, and while I am an engie main, I have picked up a couple extra classes from when I first started and for the engineer my load outs have changed over time.

Not that the engineer is the only FOO, there are plenty of other FOO tactics in other classes as well (Vita Saw, Liberty Laucher, Dead Ringer, ect)

(For context Usually I am a gunslinger, even though back when I first started, I soughed at the gunslinger, because I was being an idiot and still using it defensively. I guess most of us are not that good when starting.)
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:49 PM   #2
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I'm a fan of Extra Credits and all, but for some reason SPUF don't like dem all that much. Saying there to artsy fartsy about games.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:58 PM   #3
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I'm a fan of Extra Credits and all, but for some reason SPUF don't like dem all that much. Saying there to artsy fartsy about games.
Well they tend to be right, but they also tend to be super excited about the basic things they say. You can either see it as adorable or as annoying

edit: Yeah now that I've seen it... it's one basic point they'd already made some months ago. They explain it pretty well, granted, but the title makes it seem like they'd tackle a way more complex issue than just First Order Optimal Strategies

I don't believe Engineer is a FOOS, at least not the whole class. Gunslinger, yeah maybe. I think the class you're looking for is Heavy.

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Old 12-19-2012, 09:01 PM   #4
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That 'art' doesn't help, either.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:48 PM   #5
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I don't believe Engineer is a FOOS, at least not the whole class. Gunslinger, yeah maybe. I think the class you're looking for is Heavy.
Oh, yes the heavy. Well I guess he is more of a FOO than the engie, that being said why would stock engie not be a FOO as well? While certain knowlage of the game is kind of required (Sentry Placement, Where to place the dispenser, ect) it is something that is picked up very quickly though not to be fair not right away.

With that being said, you are correct the heavy is more of a FOO than engie and I feel silly for that never even crossing my mind.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:56 PM   #6
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This may sound stupid, but what does FOO mean?
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:58 PM   #7
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This may sound stupid, but what does FOO mean?
The gist of it is that a "FOO". Is a way to get new players aka Noobs a way to fight against the veteran players. I think the heavy is more of a FOO than any loadout of the engineer.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:11 PM   #8
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that video is cancer
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:20 PM   #9
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that video is cancer
I wouldn't go quite so far as to say that, but it's certainly not very good.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:23 PM   #10
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I wouldn't go quite so far as to say that, but it's certainly not very good.
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That 'art' doesn't help, either.
See what I mean? Ugh....
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:31 PM   #11
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I was going though extra credits videos when I came across this...

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode...cing-for-skill

It dawned on me that the majority engineer class to a degree is one big FOO. Think about it, all of us Engineer or not benifit from the engineer, and while I am an engie main, I have picked up a couple extra classes from when I first started and for the engineer my load outs have changed over time.

Not that the engineer is the only FOO, there are plenty of other FOO tactics in other classes as well (Vita Saw, Liberty Laucher, Dead Ringer, ect)

(For context Usually I am a gunslinger, even though back when I first started, I soughed at the gunslinger, because I was being an idiot and still using it defensively. I guess most of us are not that good when starting.)
So, you essentially gave "Crutch" a new term "FOO"?

((BTW, DR is not a crutch, it's just way too powerful in the hands of newb and skilled player equally))

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Old 12-19-2012, 10:59 PM   #12
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Video seemed good till it got to the starcraft example, which is just so wrong it hurts. It also leaves me wondering if I can trust what it says about other games, like street fighter, that I didn't play.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:03 PM   #13
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Extra Credit is...okay. They get a lot of the basic right but some of their stuff is not entirely correct really. Saying this as a Game Design student. They're fun to watch but you have to take all their videos with a grain of salt.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:15 PM   #14
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See what I mean? Ugh....
They shouldn't make it in video format in the first place if they can't make decent art. Whatever happened to the fine art of 'writing'?

Oh yeah, Nostalgia Critic and all those other 'internet reviewer' types popped up, so now everybody has to go about making a useless video when the written word would of worked just as well if not better.

/rant.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:16 PM   #15
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They shouldn't make it in video format in the first place if they can't make decent art. Whatever happened to the fine art of 'writing'?

Oh yeah, Nostalgia Critic and all those other 'internet reviewer' types popped up, so now everybody has to go about making a useless video when the written word would of worked just as well if not better.

/rant.
That is just how the cookie crumbles. It is really hard to get people's attention without a video and pictures.
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