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Old 03-09-2013, 06:19 AM   #1
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Petition for Valve to ban forced wait times

The big one being Pinion.

Starting the game, and joining a server take long enough time to complete, and on top of that when we get the chance to jump into the game, we have to wait another 25 god damn seconds.

Not only is it illegal but it is at the complete inconvenience of the players.

It's to make the server OP's believe they are earning money on ads by forcing their players to watch a video and wait, but in reality players have server-side ad based motd's entirely blocked and are just wasting 25 seconds of precious gameplay and unwinding time just sitting there staring at a blank screen.

This needs to be patched out of TF2 and possibly even Source and Source2. Counter-Strike Source is getting the exact same treatment at this time with forced motd wait times. It's ridiculous.

absolutely /signed, say I, etc.

I'm sick of it.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:24 AM   #2
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absolutely /signed, say I, etc.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:28 AM   #3
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Or you can... You know, play on different servers

Then again, if they are quickplay allowed, it can discourage potential new players
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:29 AM   #4
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inb4 hurr durr hows u expceting owners to pay for servers

Although I only visit Valve and RB servers I agree.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:31 AM   #5
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Or you can... You know, play on different servers

Then again, if they are quickplay allowed, it can discourage potential new players
If you're like me and live in Australia, the only server provider has all their servers loaded with Pinion.
It's a doozy.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:52 AM   #6
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/sign.

My pen tho'.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:54 AM   #7
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It's up to the server owners to decide how they run their servers. Not Valve.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:55 AM   #8
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Not only is it illegal but it is at the complete inconvenience of the players.
It's not illegal; server operators have the right to modify the game experience as they see fit.

Whether for good or bad.


/Sign, though, since the concommand that gets sent when closing the MOTD shouldn't exist.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:56 AM   #9
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/sign

What say you?
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:47 AM   #10
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inb4 hurr durr hows u expceting owners to pay for servers

Although I only visit Valve and RB servers I agree.
Same, except for this one storm server with infinite mvm money when all the regs from #4 do derpy class rushes. And they have a freaking 30 second pinion. I'd stop going there but its the only decent server like that. I have the ad blocker but it still makes me wait.

Pinion is annoying and I won't buy anything from steam until its gone!

on strike!
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:55 AM   #11
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If they can't afford it, they shouldn't have a server.
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:57 AM   #12
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It's not illegal; server operators have the right to modify the game experience as they see fit.

Whether for good or bad.
Correct.
And the most probable outcome of that would be an arms race between Valve and Server operators.
-Valve patches the MotD Exploit.
-ServerOPs figure a way around.
-Valve patches the workaround again.
-ServerOPs find a way around the workaround.

And this over and over.
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:15 AM   #13
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Correct.
And the most probable outcome of that would be an arms race between Valve and Server operators.
-Valve patches the MotD Exploit.
-ServerOPs figure a way around.
-Valve patches the workaround again.
-ServerOPs find a way around the workaround.

And this over and over.
Extreme solution and final thing to never bother with them: Ban them.

I'm in, so in that it will hurt.
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:17 AM   #14
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Yes, I absolutely agree.

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Old 03-09-2013, 09:17 AM   #15
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Valve needs to remove a lot of the dumb permissions they give servers. The motd has been abused to hell because of them.
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