Petition for Valve to ban forced wait times

noskap · 03-09-2013, 06:19 AM

The big one being Pinion.

Starting the game, and joining a server take long enough time to complete, and on top of that when we get the chance to jump into the game, we have to wait another 25 god damn seconds.

Not only is it illegal but it is at the complete inconvenience of the players.

It's to make the server OP's believe they are earning money on ads by forcing their players to watch a video and wait, but in reality players have server-side ad based motd's entirely blocked and are just wasting 25 seconds of precious gameplay and unwinding time just sitting there staring at a blank screen.

This needs to be patched out of TF2 and possibly even Source and Source2. Counter-Strike Source is getting the exact same treatment at this time with forced motd wait times. It's ridiculous.

absolutely /signed, say I, etc.

I'm sick of it.

Yuurg™ · 03-09-2013, 06:24 AM

absolutely /signed, say I, etc.

HotShot888 · 03-09-2013, 06:28 AM

Or you can... You know, play on different servers

Then again, if they are quickplay allowed, it can discourage potential new players

gf1024 · 03-09-2013, 06:29 AM

inb4 hurr durr hows u expceting owners to pay for servers

Although I only visit Valve and RB servers I agree.

noskap · 03-09-2013, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotShot888

Or you can... You know, play on different servers

Then again, if they are quickplay allowed, it can discourage potential new players

If you're like me and live in Australia, the only server provider has all their servers loaded with Pinion.
It's a doozy.

KungFooled? · 03-09-2013, 06:52 AM

/sign.

My pen tho'.

nunschaku · 03-09-2013, 06:54 AM

It's up to the server owners to decide how they run their servers. Not Valve.

CarlZalph · 03-09-2013, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noskap

Not only is it illegal but it is at the complete inconvenience of the players.

It's not illegal; server operators have the right to modify the game experience as they see fit.

Whether for good or bad.

/Sign, though, since the concommand that gets sent when closing the MOTD shouldn't exist.

Hammock · 03-09-2013, 06:56 AM

/sign

What say you?

1Fort 2Fort · 03-09-2013, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gf1024

inb4 hurr durr hows u expceting owners to pay for servers

Although I only visit Valve and RB servers I agree.

Same, except for this one storm server with infinite mvm money when all the regs from #4 do derpy class rushes. And they have a freaking 30 second pinion. I'd stop going there but its the only decent server like that. I have the ad blocker but it still makes me wait.

Pinion is annoying and I won't buy anything from steam until its gone!

on strike!

XAwesomeOneX · 03-09-2013, 08:55 AM

If they can't afford it, they shouldn't have a server.

Tito Shivan · 03-09-2013, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlZalph

It's not illegal; server operators have the right to modify the game experience as they see fit.

Whether for good or bad.

Correct.
And the most probable outcome of that would be an arms race between Valve and Server operators.
-Valve patches the MotD Exploit.
-ServerOPs figure a way around.
-Valve patches the workaround again.
-ServerOPs find a way around the workaround.

And this over and over.

Art Skoll · 03-09-2013, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tito Shivan

Correct.
And the most probable outcome of that would be an arms race between Valve and Server operators.
-Valve patches the MotD Exploit.
-ServerOPs figure a way around.
-Valve patches the workaround again.
-ServerOPs find a way around the workaround.

And this over and over.

Extreme solution and final thing to never bother with them: Ban them.

I'm in, so in that it will hurt.

Argeon · 03-09-2013, 09:17 AM

Yes, I absolutely agree.

/Signed

CasualT2 · 03-09-2013, 09:17 AM

Valve needs to remove a lot of the dumb permissions they give servers. The motd has been abused to hell because of them.

03-09-2013, 06:19 AM	#1
noskap Join Date: Sep 2009 Reputation: 126 Posts: 1,271	Petition for Valve to ban forced wait times The big one being Pinion. Starting the game, and joining a server take long enough time to complete, and on top of that when we get the chance to jump into the game, we have to wait another 25 god damn seconds. Not only is it illegal but it is at the complete inconvenience of the players. It's to make the server OP's believe they are earning money on ads by forcing their players to watch a video and wait, but in reality players have server-side ad based motd's entirely blocked and are just wasting 25 seconds of precious gameplay and unwinding time just sitting there staring at a blank screen. This needs to be patched out of TF2 and possibly even Source and Source2. Counter-Strike Source is getting the exact same treatment at this time with forced motd wait times. It's ridiculous. absolutely /signed, say I, etc. I'm sick of it.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

03-09-2013, 06:24 AM	#2
Yuurg™ Join Date: Jul 2012 Reputation: 268 Posts: 1,005	absolutely /signed, say I, etc.

03-09-2013, 06:28 AM	#3
HotShot888 Join Date: Feb 2012 Reputation: 553 Posts: 2,963	Or you can... You know, play on different servers Then again, if they are quickplay allowed, it can discourage potential new players

03-09-2013, 06:29 AM	#4
gf1024 Join Date: Feb 2008 Reputation: 1924 Posts: 8,146	inb4 hurr durr hows u expceting owners to pay for servers Although I only visit Valve and RB servers I agree.

03-09-2013, 06:52 AM	#6
KungFooled? Join Date: May 2012 Reputation: 74 Posts: 1,089	/sign. My pen tho'.

03-09-2013, 06:54 AM	#7
nunschaku Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 87 Posts: 242	It's up to the server owners to decide how they run their servers. Not Valve.

03-09-2013, 06:56 AM	#9
Hammock Join Date: May 2010 Reputation: 355 Posts: 2,565	/sign What say you?

03-09-2013, 08:55 AM	#11
XAwesomeOneX Join Date: Apr 2012 Reputation: 15 Posts: 318	If they can't afford it, they shouldn't have a server.

03-09-2013, 09:17 AM	#14
Argeon Join Date: Jan 2010 Reputation: 525 Posts: 3,097	Yes, I absolutely agree. /Signed

03-09-2013, 09:17 AM	#15
CasualT2 Join Date: Jun 2010 Reputation: 825 Posts: 3,717	Valve needs to remove a lot of the dumb permissions they give servers. The motd has been abused to hell because of them.