Yay, a new cvar for the tank!

Diebythe · 01-23-2009, 03:07 PM

*opens up L4D*
`
find burning
"z_tank_burning_lifetime" = "75"
game cheat
- Number of seconds a burning tank takes to die in versus

Huh, so a tank in versus now takes 75 seconds to burn to death in versus. The more we know!

PS: Funny that they still have this here:
"tank_burn_duration_vs" = "30"
game cheat
- Number of seconds a burning Tank takes to die

chief-lazyhorse · 01-23-2009, 03:14 PM

"tank_burn_duration_vs" = "30"

still 30 seconds for versus.

what have you been puffing

jsjaedon · 01-23-2009, 03:17 PM

hmmm...so the 70-80 secs were custom server settings?? dang....here we go again....

Diebythe · 01-23-2009, 03:17 PM

If you recall chief-lazyhorse, tank_burn_duration is used for the tank in both versus and the varying levels of co-op. I believe that z_tank_burning_lifetime, this new cvar made specifically for tanks in versus (as it has no co-op counterparts), overrides tank_burn_duration_vs.

Hey, jsjaedon, I dare you to follow the instructions I did in the first post. Press ` to open up the server browser and type in "find burning". That cvar will appear, along with a few others.

KeRupTion · 01-23-2009, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief-lazyhorse

"tank_burn_duration_vs" = "30"

still 30 seconds for versus.

what have you been puffing

Wait did you even read his post?

jsjaedon · 01-23-2009, 03:20 PM

are you saying that some servers can set the burning tank to 30 secs, and some can be 80 secs? if that's the case, then i feel we are back at the whole, advanced (vs) and normal (vs) servers dilemma again.

im very confused??

XEshamX · 01-23-2009, 03:21 PM

one cvar takes precidence over the other.

burn duration is out, burnlifetime is in.

Skysnake · 01-23-2009, 03:23 PM

See you in hell, burn duration =)

jsjaedon · 01-23-2009, 03:24 PM

....soo that means tanks officially die in 75 secs IF THEY JUST BURN. NO DMG FROM GUNS.

Shykin · 01-23-2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsjaedon

are you saying that some servers can set the burning tank to 30 secs, and some can be 80 secs? if that's the case, then i feel we are back at the whole, advanced (vs) and normal (vs) servers dilemma again.

im very confused??

It wasn't so much advanced vs normal but normal vs expert. A much larger difference.

linfosoma · 01-23-2009, 03:25 PM

Ok, thanks OP for this. I still have a very silly question:
This is versus only correct?
So that means that the tank takes no damage while on fire in co-op, correct?
Just wanted to clarify that.

Diebythe · 01-23-2009, 03:26 PM

Jsjaedon, that is a different topic entirely. By using sv_cheats 1, a server could alter the cvar (or console variable) known as "tank_burn_duration_vs" to whatever number they please, whether it be 1 second or 9000. This would mean the tank would burn to death in that many seconds if the server changed it from the default 30.

However, what I am talking about is the emergence of this new cvar. Considering that it only exists for the sake of versus mode, I believe it will be used for how long it takes for the tank to burn instead of "tank_burn_duration_vs". Understand?

Zek23 · 01-23-2009, 03:26 PM

I'm guessing it's a new cvar because of the new behavior of the molotov. The new one is just a way to measure the DoT damage, i.e. the molotov does enough damage to kill a tank in 75 seconds. As opposed to before, where the burn lasted 30 seconds and at the end of a burn the tank is dead.

chief-lazyhorse · 01-23-2009, 03:27 PM

so basically it's a tank buff not a nerf?

i fail to see how having your time on fire increased 2.5 times is a nerf.

it only takes about 30 seconds to incap 4 survivors anyway when on fire and chasing them

backwards · 01-23-2009, 03:30 PM

it just means a molotov isnt an instant death sentence. now you have to actually shoot the tank, because hes not going to instantly die in 30 seconds.

01-23-2009, 03:07 PM	#1
Diebythe Join Date: Aug 2008 Reputation: 54 Posts: 840	Yay, a new cvar for the tank! opens up L4D ` find burning "z_tank_burning_lifetime" = "75" game cheat - Number of seconds a burning tank takes to die in versus Huh, so a tank in versus now takes 75 seconds to burn to death in versus. The more we know! PS: Funny that they still have this here: "tank_burn_duration_vs" = "30" game cheat - Number of seconds a burning Tank takes to die

01-23-2009, 03:17 PM	#4
Diebythe Join Date: Aug 2008 Reputation: 54 Posts: 840	If you recall chief-lazyhorse, tank_burn_duration is used for the tank in both versus and the varying levels of co-op. I believe that z_tank_burning_lifetime, this new cvar made specifically for tanks in versus (as it has no co-op counterparts), overrides tank_burn_duration_vs. Hey, jsjaedon, I dare you to follow the instructions I did in the first post. Press ` to open up the server browser and type in "find burning". That cvar will appear, along with a few others. Last edited by Diebythe : 01-23-2009 at 03:20 PM.

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01-23-2009, 03:14 PM	#2
chief-lazyhorse Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Reputation: 19 Posts: 528	"tank_burn_duration_vs" = "30" still 30 seconds for versus. what have you been puffing

01-23-2009, 03:17 PM	#3
jsjaedon Join Date: Jan 2009 Reputation: 8 Posts: 1,164	hmmm...so the 70-80 secs were custom server settings?? dang....here we go again....

01-23-2009, 03:20 PM	#6
jsjaedon Join Date: Jan 2009 Reputation: 8 Posts: 1,164	are you saying that some servers can set the burning tank to 30 secs, and some can be 80 secs? if that's the case, then i feel we are back at the whole, advanced (vs) and normal (vs) servers dilemma again. im very confused??

01-23-2009, 03:21 PM	#7
XEshamX Join Date: Jan 2009 Reputation: 17 Posts: 1,020	one cvar takes precidence over the other. burn duration is out, burnlifetime is in.

01-23-2009, 03:23 PM	#8
Skysnake Join Date: Sep 2007 Reputation: 0 Posts: 87	See you in hell, burn duration =)

01-23-2009, 03:24 PM	#9
jsjaedon Join Date: Jan 2009 Reputation: 8 Posts: 1,164	....soo that means tanks officially die in 75 secs IF THEY JUST BURN. NO DMG FROM GUNS.

01-23-2009, 03:25 PM	#11
linfosoma Join Date: Jul 2008 Reputation: 315 Posts: 5,751	Ok, thanks OP for this. I still have a very silly question: This is versus only correct? So that means that the tank takes no damage while on fire in co-op, correct? Just wanted to clarify that.

01-23-2009, 03:26 PM	#12
Diebythe Join Date: Aug 2008 Reputation: 54 Posts: 840	Jsjaedon, that is a different topic entirely. By using sv_cheats 1, a server could alter the cvar (or console variable) known as "tank_burn_duration_vs" to whatever number they please, whether it be 1 second or 9000. This would mean the tank would burn to death in that many seconds if the server changed it from the default 30. However, what I am talking about is the emergence of this new cvar. Considering that it only exists for the sake of versus mode, I believe it will be used for how long it takes for the tank to burn instead of "tank_burn_duration_vs". Understand?

01-23-2009, 03:26 PM	#13
Zek23 Join Date: Feb 2004 Reputation: 31 Posts: 1,373	I'm guessing it's a new cvar because of the new behavior of the molotov. The new one is just a way to measure the DoT damage, i.e. the molotov does enough damage to kill a tank in 75 seconds. As opposed to before, where the burn lasted 30 seconds and at the end of a burn the tank is dead.

01-23-2009, 03:27 PM	#14
chief-lazyhorse Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Reputation: 19 Posts: 528	so basically it's a tank buff not a nerf? i fail to see how having your time on fire increased 2.5 times is a nerf. it only takes about 30 seconds to incap 4 survivors anyway when on fire and chasing them

01-23-2009, 03:30 PM	#15
backwards Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Reputation: 8 Posts: 1,301	it just means a molotov isnt an instant death sentence. now you have to actually shoot the tank, because hes not going to instantly die in 30 seconds.