If I got a new CPU and graphics card..

09-20-2009, 09:10 AM

Would my system performance increase ALOT?

at the momennttt:

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3ghz (Change to Intel Core 2 Duo E8400)
Graphics Card: nVidia 7300 GT (Change to nvidia 9800 GT 1GB)
Motherboard: Biostar P4M900 Micro 775 (Not changing)
RAM: 2GB
OS: WIndows xp 32 bit
Monitor: 15"
Would it be worth it if I changed the cpu and gfx?

Also, which would you buy first if you had little money, the cpu or the graphics card?

Thanks.

Rillow · 09-20-2009, 09:15 AM

Sure you'd get a performance increase! You might get more bang for your buck if you picked up a 4850 instead. It also depends on your monitors resolution... It wouldn't hurt to go for some more RAM in the long run provided you have a 64 bit OS.

DARKNIGHT · 09-20-2009, 09:19 AM

Thats such an upgrade, you will be blown away.

Just one thing you really need to make sure, can your motherboard handle the E8400, in other word does the Bios support that cpu?
Theres a world of difference between a p4 and a core 2 cpu and you may need to update the motherboards bios in order to get the e8400 working, especially if the mobo is as old as the p4.

09-20-2009, 09:23 AM

Ah, my OS is Windows XP 32-bit.

Also, it says in the specification of the mobo that it can handle core 2 duo processors. I'd just get my dads friend to set it up i the Bios or whatever that is XD

Also, my monitor is 15" wide. Holy..I only just realised I've got a really tiny monitor :\

Rillow · 09-20-2009, 09:36 AM

You could probably get a bigger monitor if your getting a 1GB card, otherwise your just spending money for extra memory you don't need.

Baron_Fel · 09-20-2009, 10:22 AM

Are you sure your mobo supports the E8400?

lhwj · 09-20-2009, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron_Fel

Are you sure your mobo supports the E8400?

No way! Pentium 4 to 65 nm Core 2 Duo is already a huge jump, let alone a 45 nm Core 2 Duo. http://www.biostar-usa.com/cpusuppor...%20MICRO%20775

Luke

rotNdude · 09-20-2009, 11:49 AM

It won't support the E8400:

http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/...rt.php?S_ID=99

enggmaster · 09-20-2009, 12:34 PM

He's better off buying a whole new system.

I advise getting 4GB ram as well, too many people here are saying, no no, 2GB's fine, but look what's happening now.

DARKNIGHT · 09-20-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enggmaster

He's better off buying a whole new system.

I advise getting 4GB ram as well, too many people here are saying, no no, 2GB's fine, but look what's happening now.

Have to agree, 2gb seems a bit yesterday now.

As for the updgrade, he could go with a upgrade set (mobo+cpu+ram) and a video card, but we need to know his budget.

Baron_Fel · 09-20-2009, 07:12 PM

Alt tabbing in and out of games with 2GB takes ages, its pretty much unusable.

09-23-2009, 01:16 PM

Thanks for the reply guys.

Dang, I'm not really a techie but I always thought my motherbaord would be compatible with a core 2 duo

Also, if you want to know my budget, it's around £0-300

or $500 but erm if you can keep it as low as possible that'd be great. I'm 16 so I can't really fork out $500 really easily. Would prefer it if it was 300-400 dollars.

Alt tabbing in and out of games for me takes like 6 seconds

pizzahut · 09-23-2009, 02:00 PM

According to the website which rotNdude posted, you can put in a Core 2 Duo E6700.

Edit: Hint from the mainboard manufacturer's website:

Quote:

If you plan to upgrade processor from your existing unit, please update bios first before changing or upgrading processors.

DARKNIGHT · 09-23-2009, 02:10 PM

Intel based

Mobo: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=1495

CPU: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=6&subcat=1272

Memory: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=8&subcat=1387

Video Card: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=56&subcat=927

Total £451.96 including tax.

AMD:

Mobo: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MB-335-AS

CPU: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CP-238-AM

Memory: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-041-GS

Video card: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-213-AS

Total: £383.96 including tax

Amd is certainly cheaper, i could go build a socket 775 intel based setup, but that socket is slowly dying, the i5 is the better option if you want to go with intel. Also ive picked somewhat high end hardware, it will last quite a while.

This is just a price estimate, not sure where you will buy your stuff, but overclockers is pretty good.

Cloud*7 · 09-23-2009, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARKNIGHT

Thats such an upgrade, you will be blown away.

what he said.

09-20-2009, 09:10 AM	#1
Sajdood Guest Posts: n/a	If I got a new CPU and graphics card.. Would my system performance increase ALOT? at the momennttt: CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3ghz (Change to Intel Core 2 Duo E8400) Graphics Card: nVidia 7300 GT (Change to nvidia 9800 GT 1GB) Motherboard: Biostar P4M900 Micro 775 (Not changing) RAM: 2GB OS: WIndows xp 32 bit Monitor: 15" Would it be worth it if I changed the cpu and gfx? Also, which would you buy first if you had little money, the cpu or the graphics card? Thanks. Last edited by Sajdood: 09-20-2009 at 09:26 AM.

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09-20-2009, 09:15 AM	#2
Rillow Join Date: Mar 2009 Reputation: 2 Posts: 192	Sure you'd get a performance increase! You might get more bang for your buck if you picked up a 4850 instead. It also depends on your monitors resolution... It wouldn't hurt to go for some more RAM in the long run provided you have a 64 bit OS.

09-20-2009, 09:19 AM	#3
DARKNIGHT Join Date: Jan 2004 Reputation: 1680 Posts: 5,142	Thats such an upgrade, you will be blown away. Just one thing you really need to make sure, can your motherboard handle the E8400, in other word does the Bios support that cpu? Theres a world of difference between a p4 and a core 2 cpu and you may need to update the motherboards bios in order to get the e8400 working, especially if the mobo is as old as the p4.

09-20-2009, 09:23 AM	#4
Sajdood Guest Posts: n/a	Ah, my OS is Windows XP 32-bit. Also, it says in the specification of the mobo that it can handle core 2 duo processors. I'd just get my dads friend to set it up i the Bios or whatever that is XD Also, my monitor is 15" wide. Holy..I only just realised I've got a really tiny monitor :\

09-20-2009, 09:36 AM	#5
Rillow Join Date: Mar 2009 Reputation: 2 Posts: 192	You could probably get a bigger monitor if your getting a 1GB card, otherwise your just spending money for extra memory you don't need.

09-20-2009, 10:22 AM	#6
Baron_Fel Join Date: Jul 2006 Reputation: 1931 Posts: 8,811	Are you sure your mobo supports the E8400?

09-20-2009, 11:49 AM	#8
rotNdude Volunteer Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Reputation: 9180 Posts: 45,467	It won't support the E8400: http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/...rt.php?S_ID=99

09-20-2009, 12:34 PM	#9
enggmaster Join Date: Jun 2004 Reputation: 742 Posts: 8,464	He's better off buying a whole new system. I advise getting 4GB ram as well, too many people here are saying, no no, 2GB's fine, but look what's happening now.

09-20-2009, 07:12 PM	#11
Baron_Fel Join Date: Jul 2006 Reputation: 1931 Posts: 8,811	Alt tabbing in and out of games with 2GB takes ages, its pretty much unusable.

09-23-2009, 01:16 PM	#12
Sajdood Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks for the reply guys. Dang, I'm not really a techie but I always thought my motherbaord would be compatible with a core 2 duo Also, if you want to know my budget, it's around £0-300 or $500 but erm if you can keep it as low as possible that'd be great. I'm 16 so I can't really fork out $500 really easily. Would prefer it if it was 300-400 dollars. Alt tabbing in and out of games for me takes like 6 seconds

09-23-2009, 02:10 PM	#14
DARKNIGHT Join Date: Jan 2004 Reputation: 1680 Posts: 5,142	Intel based Mobo: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=1495 CPU: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=6&subcat=1272 Memory: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=8&subcat=1387 Video Card: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=56&subcat=927 Total £451.96 including tax. AMD: Mobo: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MB-335-AS CPU: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CP-238-AM Memory: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-041-GS Video card: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-213-AS Total: £383.96 including tax Amd is certainly cheaper, i could go build a socket 775 intel based setup, but that socket is slowly dying, the i5 is the better option if you want to go with intel. Also ive picked somewhat high end hardware, it will last quite a while. This is just a price estimate, not sure where you will buy your stuff, but overclockers is pretty good.