i5 question

squad · 09-23-2009, 05:24 PM

Is it worth getting a i5 pc set up because I heard i5 chip has no HT enable on them and I dunno if that would effect anything... i7 has it enable and I don't know if I should go with an i5 or an amd 955 build...

I7 is too expensive and want to do a cheap upgrade.

Would I see a huge performance jump from E8500 to I5 or 955?

Thanks!

Baron_Fel · 09-23-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by squad

Would I see a huge performance jump from E8500 to I5 or 955?

In certain tasks, yes. In others, no.

You dont really need a CPU upgrade if you have an E8500, buy a non stock cooler and OC it to 3.8GHz and youll have a good amound of CPU power.

What are the rest of your system specs? Monitor? There are better ways to upgrade if you want to spend money.

squad · 09-23-2009, 05:31 PM

Manufacturer: Myself
Processor: Intel 2 Duo 8500 Wolfdale @ 3.8
Memory: G.SKILL 4GB DDR2 1066
Hard Drive: WD Caviar Black 1TB + Seagate Barracuda 1TB + Seagate Barracuda 500 Gig
External Hard Drive: Foxconn 1TB
Video Card: ASUS Radeon HD 4890 1GB GDDR5
Monitor: Asus 24" LCD 1080p
Sound Card: Steelseries Siberia USB
Speakers/Headphones: Sony 20 watt 2.1 system / Steelseries Siberia Full
Keyboard: Loitech G15(Wired)
Mouse: MS Habu (Wired)
Mouse Surface: Func Surface Pad
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45
Computer Case: CoolerMaster RC690

squad · 09-23-2009, 05:49 PM

Thats my build now

Baron_Fel · 09-23-2009, 06:52 PM

That system is really good as is. If anything that 4890 is limiting you much more than your CPU is.

An SSD like this 60GB OCZ Vertex for $200 would be a nice addition, you could stick windows and few games on it. Really storage (HDD/SSD) and maybe a new GPU a few months from now (if you can sell/reuse your old one somewhere else) are the only worthwhile upgrades you could do.

why are you using a 32 bit OS?

squad · 09-23-2009, 06:55 PM

Well I sold my gtx 285 because of coil whine and I can't play games like that and nvidia cards has analog and ati digital so it wont make that coil whine. I heard 4890 is a great card and actually better then a 275.

285's has a horrible rep when it comes to loudness and coil whine.

Baron_Fel · 09-23-2009, 07:00 PM

I know, I hear that voltage-induced whine all the time. It doesnt bother me at all though.

The 4890 is a great card, im not suggesting you upgrade it now (you just got it). Just that in 3 months both nvidia and AMD will have their new GPU lineups out, and there might be something worth upgrading to then.

atm though there is no better upgrade you could do than getting an SSD.

Duke Something · 09-23-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by squad

Manufacturer: Myself
Processor: Intel 2 Duo 8500 Wolfdale @ 3.8
Memory: G.SKILL 4GB DDR2 1066
Hard Drive: WD Caviar Black 1TB + Seagate Barracuda 1TB + Seagate Barracuda 500 Gig
External Hard Drive: Foxconn 1TB
Video Card: ASUS Radeon HD 4890 1GB GDDR5
Monitor: Asus 24" LCD 1080p
Sound Card: Steelseries Siberia USB
Speakers/Headphones: Sony 20 watt 2.1 system / Steelseries Siberia Full
Keyboard: Loitech G15(Wired)
Mouse: MS Habu (Wired)
Mouse Surface: Func Surface Pad
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45
Computer Case: CoolerMaster RC690

i have a very similar build.
Processor: Intel 2 Duo 8500 Wolfdale @3.18Ghz
Memory: OCZ 8GB DDR2 800 (OC'd to 935Mhz)
Hard Drive: WD Caviar green 1TB + 3x 500Gb Samsung Spinpoint F1's + Seagate Barracuda 500 Gig
Video Card: BFG Nvidia 9800GTX+ OC
Monitor: Samsung 2333SW
Sound Card: onboard 7.1 realtek HD audio (woohoo)
Keyboard: Saitek Eclipse III
Mouse: Logitech MX518
Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
Motherboard: Asus P5Q SE2 LGA 775 Intel P45
Computer Case: CoolerMaster Elite 335

The only reason the ram is OC'd is for stability reasons. yeah dont ask me why OC'd ram is more stable than stock values but when it was stock i would get a lot of BSOD's. anyway point being i play L4D, COD 4 all settings maxed @ 1920x1080 resolution and get 75-90 fps so i havend bothered OC'ing the CPU yet. and crysis at medium settings same resolution and get 45-50 FPS during heavy action. you have a good comp personally i am going to wait a bit till the prive to biuld a i7 comes down. and YES hyper threading is worth it. if you open task manager on a i7 system and go to the performance tab your computer will register 8 CPUs. so yeah a few extra bucks for virtually double the power is a good thing.

the only thing i would spend a few dollars on is double your ram and get a 64bit OS to take advantage of it. BTW i can play 2 3d games at the same to with 8 gigs of ram. run L4D and Empire total war and alt tab.

chaoscentral · 09-23-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron_Fel

Just that in 3 months both nvidia and AMD will have their new GPU lineups out, and there might be something worth upgrading to then.

ATI's new cards came out today, and nVidia's should be something like 4-6 months down the road.

1600 shader processors is definately something to upgrade to

Baron_Fel · 09-24-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chaoscentral

ATI's new cards came out today, and nVidia's should be something like 4-6 months down the road.

Nvidia's cards might be out in december, maybe even november. Not 6 months from now.

Combat Medic · 09-24-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron_Fel

Nvidia's cards might be out in december, maybe even november. Not 6 months from now.

However they will be far more expensive due to yield issues.

Baron_Fel · 09-24-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Combat Medic

However they will be far more expensive due to yield issues.

You have no way of knowing that. Even if yields are bad, nvidia could decide to soak up the cost in order to have competitive pricing.

Petchyy · 09-24-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Combat Medic

However they will be far more expensive due to yield issues.

They are also gunna be expensive because of what they are putting on the thing, it sounds like it's going to be an immense GPU.

09-23-2009, 05:24 PM	#1
squad Join Date: Nov 2008 Reputation: 0 Posts: 119	i5 question Is it worth getting a i5 pc set up because I heard i5 chip has no HT enable on them and I dunno if that would effect anything... i7 has it enable and I don't know if I should go with an i5 or an amd 955 build... I7 is too expensive and want to do a cheap upgrade. Would I see a huge performance jump from E8500 to I5 or 955? Thanks!

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09-23-2009, 05:31 PM	#3
squad Join Date: Nov 2008 Reputation: 0 Posts: 119	Manufacturer: Myself Processor: Intel 2 Duo 8500 Wolfdale @ 3.8 Memory: G.SKILL 4GB DDR2 1066 Hard Drive: WD Caviar Black 1TB + Seagate Barracuda 1TB + Seagate Barracuda 500 Gig External Hard Drive: Foxconn 1TB Video Card: ASUS Radeon HD 4890 1GB GDDR5 Monitor: Asus 24" LCD 1080p Sound Card: Steelseries Siberia USB Speakers/Headphones: Sony 20 watt 2.1 system / Steelseries Siberia Full Keyboard: Loitech G15(Wired) Mouse: MS Habu (Wired) Mouse Surface: Func Surface Pad Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 Computer Case: CoolerMaster RC690

09-23-2009, 05:49 PM	#4
squad Join Date: Nov 2008 Reputation: 0 Posts: 119	Thats my build now

09-23-2009, 06:52 PM	#5
Baron_Fel Join Date: Jul 2006 Reputation: 1931 Posts: 8,811	That system is really good as is. If anything that 4890 is limiting you much more than your CPU is. An SSD like this 60GB OCZ Vertex for $200 would be a nice addition, you could stick windows and few games on it. Really storage (HDD/SSD) and maybe a new GPU a few months from now (if you can sell/reuse your old one somewhere else) are the only worthwhile upgrades you could do. why are you using a 32 bit OS?

09-23-2009, 06:55 PM	#6
squad Join Date: Nov 2008 Reputation: 0 Posts: 119	Well I sold my gtx 285 because of coil whine and I can't play games like that and nvidia cards has analog and ati digital so it wont make that coil whine. I heard 4890 is a great card and actually better then a 275. 285's has a horrible rep when it comes to loudness and coil whine.

09-23-2009, 07:00 PM	#7
Baron_Fel Join Date: Jul 2006 Reputation: 1931 Posts: 8,811	I know, I hear that voltage-induced whine all the time. It doesnt bother me at all though. The 4890 is a great card, im not suggesting you upgrade it now (you just got it). Just that in 3 months both nvidia and AMD will have their new GPU lineups out, and there might be something worth upgrading to then. atm though there is no better upgrade you could do than getting an SSD.